So, I've been seeing a lot of these threads recently, where people will say stuff like "its not there job, but if I get one Im super grateful." I wish to respond to this by politely saying stop circle jerking each other and fishing for up votes. it is the Jungler's JOB to gank my lane and I fully expect him to do it.
MohawkBird5 votesNo, it's the junglers job to control and secure important objectives. If he happens to see someone overextended he/she will try to put pressure on said lane, but he doesn't have to stop his farming and cs'ing just to help you. The jungler is setting themselves behind when ganking a lane so be thankful that they even come to it. Don't get mad at your jungler because you are losing your lane.
ValyrianBlade5 votesNo, it ISN'T.
His JOB is to do whatever is the best for the TEAM. NOT what's best for YOU or YOUR LANE. Just like it's YOUR JOB to do what's best for the TEAM - i.e. when he's not ganking for you to not die solo in lane, to not extend without vision and die to a gank, to not freely give up your tower, etc...
Ganking IS a key PART of the jungler's job. That said, WHEN they should gank and IF that gank should be for your lane are entirely different concepts.
If I'm playing a jungler that doesn't have great ganks pre level 6, and is a strong farm jungler, I probably shouldn't gank until I'm level 6. IF I am going to gank pre-6, it's going to be
Now, aside from all of that: If you're say, Vladimir mid against Zed. Bot lane is Jinx+Leona against Kog'maw + Sona. Who do you think I'm going to gank? Obviously I'm going to camp bot lane as ganking to draw Zed's W is worth almost nothing, however even denying Kog'maw farm will make a huge difference in the game (and really, you'll need to give Jinx a couple kills so she can deny Kog'maw all laning phase in order to avoid him becoming a late game terror).
When Jungling, it's REALLY frustrating when a laner who is dying repeatedly in lane blames me for not ganking for them when I'm 4/0/5 and have been camping another lane - there's normally a REASON why I'm prioritizing another lane (in most cases EVERY one of these applies: it's the easier lane to gank, it's a more impactful lane [either the enemy or our teammate is a late game hypercarry], and the complaining laner is pushing [explains why he's dying, and I can't gank when they're already at tower]).
To the point of whether I should even gank or not:
I'm sure there are many more reasons. Hopefully this at least explains why you're not always getting ganks when you want them.
More importantly though: Not receiving a gank and even having a Jungler who OUTRIGHT SUCKS is NO EXCUSE FOR DYING IN LANE - ESPECIALLY REPEATEDLY. It is NOT the jungler's fault you are dying in lane. The jungler NOT ganking didn't make you die. Your over-extending, your bad trades, your play of the matchup, etc... is what made you die. Once your behind, your refusal to play safely and wait to catch up is what is making you die. Your refusal to ward and have map awareness before extending is making you die.
If I'm in lane and another laner dies, I NEVER think "oh god this Jungler should have ganked for him". I think "lets see how close he was to getting the kill (was it a small misjudgment)" and if it wasn't close "wow this laner sucks".
More notably, it can actually be the laner's fault when the jungler dies. Either from not going in when he ganks, or more importantly not noticing he's skirmishing with the enemy jungler in the river and letting your lane opponent go change a winning fight for your jungler in to a losing 2v1 when you don't also go to the fight (I literally had this in my last game, winning 1v1 against Vi in top-mid river after getting an assist ganking Teemo mid, my top laner Kha'zix had pushed to tower, I pinged assistance even though I was going to win the fight, and somehow the enemy top laner Wukong came to assist Vi while neither my top nor mid Cho'gath came to help me [admittedly Cho was low after I ganked, but Kha' should have been there before Wukong]).
SiNful Jungler1 votesWell said i have nothing to add you covered eveything :)
DeloricVI1 votesWow, a mid main that feels entitled for ganks. What are the odds? (Yeah, I checked your match history to see if I was dealing with an equally entitled ADC main. Yeah, I went there.)
Being a jungler is not as simple as "Buy a ward, Gank S*t, don't feed," jungling would be the easiest role in the game. The jungler's job is to secure objectives. Ganks are just a tool that Junglers use to take objectives. Why do you think that a lot of successful bot lane ganks end with a small push, and then a bee-line straight to dragon, or a hard push to try to take a tower? Everyone in the game has to make the best choices for the team, and junglers are no exception. If you're not cs'ing well, or you're feeding really hard, or your lane is otherwise clearly lost, should they help you? Or should they continue to help the carries that are doing well partially due to their help? I'm sorry to say, if a jungler isn't ganking for you there's a reason; it's because they're focusing on who or what is going to take the most objectives, who can steal more dragons from the enemy team, who can take down towers faster, etc.
azrolator1 votesThis season it is really hard to gank much and still keep a decent level by farming. Ganks really need to be successful and if you have lanes that keep feeding the enemy jungler by pushing hard or running away from every fight then it's super hard to do anything. S5 is more about objective control. I try to ward up and pick champs that can quickly solo dragon and later baron. But when every game you jungle, the support leads the enemy team right to you in middle of dragon after you keep telling him to stop, and the adc runs away everytime you ping over and over you are ganking the second you engage, the want to gank gets less an less.
Ship 0F Ducks1 votesplay master yi
NoMonku1 votesThe junglers job is to create pressure around the map and offer objective control(dragon/baron). By applying pressure, they can gank for you, but they don't HAVE to. As long as they are doing something useful when you are getting ganked, such as ganking a different lane or taking an objective, then they are doing their job.
They are NOT required to babysit you. If you want your hand held, play ADC.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesIf you're reallly highly expecting the jungler to always gank for you, then I guess you must have sucked in laning phases a LOT.
