How do we do this exactly? Cause I was playing against a Garen with 145 MR and I was Fizz with over 500 AP and I barely scratched him, how the hell are we supposed to beat F'ernauts? I'm tired of losing to them.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Zerolera4 votesPeel for your ADC and let them kill the juggernaut/tank. Even better kill the assassin or burst damage dealer whose trying to kill your ADC so they can easily deal the damage without having the fear of being bursted down.
Crossette1 votesExcept with this season, 90% of tanks and juggernauts will legitimately just walk up/mobility up and just kill you anyways with one or even no damage items.
Kan1x4 votesim convinced that people log into the forums just to downvote every single post
Beldair2 votesI'm convinced ppl say that just to troll.
He got downvoted because of how he worded his post more than likely.
And the fact he has no idea how to fight a juggernaut..if he has been playing for a while, he should know that tanks counter Assassins like Fizz.
Fizz wants to burst a champ down...something that Tanks can withstand.
Glîtchy2 votesI'm convinced ppl say that just to troll.
He got downvoted because of how he worded his post more than likely.
And the fact he has no idea how to fight a juggernaut..if he has been playing for a while, he should know that tanks counter Assassins like Fizz.
Fizz wants to burst a champ down...something that Tanks can withstand.
So....because F'ernauts are tanky beaters, it automatically means that I suck since I can't beat 'em? And besides 145 mr shouldn't be enough to be barely fazed by 500 AP, I go full tank Nasus and Nautilus and it still hit's me for a big chunk even my MR is like 250 or more
Beldair2 votesGaren also has his W's passive and active.
Also, Nasus has no defensive capabilities, all offensive.
Nautilus has his shield which would negate a lot of that damage if activated at the right time.
I play Juggernauts and i've fought Juggernauts.
I easily beat out a Garen as J4 and then i beat a Nasus as Karma support.
It is all about timing your attacks and kiting the Jugger.
Glîtchy1 votesGaren also has his W's passive and active.
Also, Nasus has no defensive capabilities, all offensive.
Nautilus has his shield which would negate a lot of that damage if activated at the right time.
I play Juggernauts and i've fought Juggernauts.
I easily beat out a Garen as J4 and then i beat a Nasus as Karma support.
It is all about timing your attacks and kiting the Jugger.
I don't play J4, and I don't play Karma, BUT I may try Vayne just so I can punish the hell outta Darius and Garen.
Beldair1 votesYea, tank destroyers like Vayne and Vi can make some quick work of Juggernauts.
Wind Whistler2 votesim convinced that people log into the forums just to downvote every single post
Oh the irony.
Quepha3 votesAs Fizz you just jump past him and kill his carries. Let the rest of your team kite and dps him down.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesKiting.
He's tanky. He's supposed to counter burst like from a Fizz
Glîtchy1 votesKiting.
He's tanky. He's supposed to counter burst like from a Fizz
So in other words....even mages....good going Rito.
ModWulf Helhammer4 votesWhat is that even supposed to mean?
EndlessSorcerer1 votesBruisers and tanks have pretty much always countered burst mages.
Durable champions are weaker to DPS.
Wind Whistler1 votesSo in other words....even mages....good going Rito.
Wouldn't exactly call Fizz a mage. Also, 
redniwediS3 votesOdds are good that he had his W active there, because as a Garen main I can tell you right now if I had that much MR and you had that much AP you would deal significant damage to me if I didn't activate my 30% damage reduction.
Try baiting out his abilities before using your own. W has a fair cooldown for him. Also don't try to duel with him unless you have a clear opening to kill him. Just jump in, deal your damage, and back off while you wait for your cooldowns.
Incognonymous2 votesIs this a joke thread?
As a class, they are literally the most counterable champs in the game.
ITT: "Waaaaaah, I can't one shot Garen with mah freelo fish"
Glîtchy2 votesIs this a joke thread?
As a class, they are literally the most counterable champs in the game.
ITT: "Waaaaaah, I can't one shot Garen with mah freelo fish"
And Garen should be allowed to have true damage? And Darius should be allowed to spam his ult each time he kills without ANY mana cost?
Sounds good!
Everyone! I was wrong! F'ernauts deserve to keep their bullshit true damage while we can't kill them easily!
Incognonymous1 votesAnd Garen should be allowed to have true damage? And Darius should be allowed to spam his ult each time he kills without ANY mana cost?
Sounds good!
Everyone! I was wrong! F'ernauts deserve to keep their bullshit true damage while we can't kill them easily!
Whataboutism? Is this 1970s political policy? Stop embarrassing yourself.
People who play champs with mobility and hard CC do not get to complain about people who play champs without mobility and hard CC. That is absurd.
Sasogwa2 votesWhat do you want, being able to oneshoot tanks, juggernaughts and squishies alike? Suggestion : play Garen yourself until you realize when he's bad and why, what are his weaknesses in general. It can only lead to 2 possibilities : you being challenger or you realizing Garen's weaknesses.
Crossette1 votesReally productive, telling him to figure out a champion's weaknesses even though you can't provide help yourself.
Ezreal is one of my mains, I love the piece of shit. But I still see no way to counterplay what is literally fucking artillery with a free blink on an 8 second cooldown.
Same goes for Zac. And Lee.
Sasogwa1 votesReally productive, telling him to figure out a champion's weaknesses even though you can't provide help yourself.
Ezreal is one of my mains, I love the piece of shit. But I still see no way to counterplay what is literally fucking artillery with a free blink on an 8 second cooldown.
Same goes for Zac. And Lee.
The weaknesses were already pointed out in previous posts, I would only sound repetitive. But you feel the weaknesses more when you actually play a champion than when you read it. About ezreal, kinda true. Zac, well his hardengage has quite long range; but overall his damage output and tankiness are rather average. Lee... is Lee, there's been a lot of debating around him and a number of called 'overloaded' champions, but that's another story.
Anyway, knowing how to play a champion also helps you with dealing with it, understanding the windows of power and weakness (knowing approximate CD's and when he's vulnerable; how to deal with him in general in lane and teamfights etc.)
So whatever, criticize my post if you want.
Zone of Endless1 votesBeing an assassin doesn't mean you get to one shot everyone. If mages can burst tank like they can burst ADC then there's really no other reason ADC would be even in the game.
Juggernauts are made to kill you if you let them get close. That's why they have no form of a reliable gap closer if any at all and are easily kited.
Garen's true damage is only against ONE target and that is the Villain.
If Darius gets to execute the tank then your team is not doing their job following up with the tank or if he executed the backline then you're not kiting properly.
Nekusen1 votesfizz is an assassin, tanks counter assassins.
adcs counter tanks.
assassins counter adcs.
the beautiful circle of life.
MoonToonEx1 votesYou ... you DO know that Fizz is an asns and they're not meant to just kill everyone that gets in their way, right? My fav Fizz counter is a tank.