RoA Amumu jungle: yes or no?

XIII Vanitas·May 28, 2016·1 votes·1,081 views

The new looks really powerful on battle mages that have toggled abilities ( ), so I was thinking that maybe it could work on jungle as well.

I'm not so sure tho, because I believe there might a couple of problems: 1- RoA is a stacking item that should be bought asap, but you already have to finish your jungle item first, thus delaying its powerspike. It's true that buys RoA, but she's probably allowed to do that because of her extremely fast clear speed, that Amumu lacks. 2- Buying RoA puts you further away from finishing your , which is definitely a core item with a high priority.

So, what do you think about it? Is it worth or not? If you answer yes, would you go Cinderhulk and RoA or Runic Echoes and RoA?

14 Comments

RalanrMay 28, 20161 votes

If you can afford it, I don't see why not? Why not get both item 3027 and item 3116 ?

XIII VanitasMay 28, 20161 votes

Because if I do so I have a lot of Hp, but low armor and MR.

I Am LegxndaryMay 28, 20161 votes

I wouldn't. I'd go cinderhulk/ekko into item 3116 or item 3068 or item 3151 ...depending on the situation really and how well I'm doing with farming/ganks.

A full build amumu would look like this for me...

item 1409 item 3116 item 3068 item 3102 item 3075 item 3111

item 1410 item 3068 item 3001 item 3116 item 3047 item 3060

EndlessSorcererMay 28, 20161 votes

You shouldn't build both Cinderhulk and Sunfire Cape.

They share a unique passive, so the magic damage auras don't stack.

III BAKURYU III May 28, 20161 votes

Spoken like a True Sorcerer !

I Am LegxndaryMay 28, 20161 votes

You're right I forget.

WoonStruckMay 28, 20161 votes

No CDR? I hope you don't need your ult.

Either that or you're running a 20-30% CDR page.

I Am LegxndaryMay 28, 20161 votes

I usually prefer the 2nd...10% cdr glyphs

WoonStruckMay 28, 20161 votes

You don't have to rush the jungle item. Sit on item 1039 item 1041 , then build RoA.

You're building it almost 2000 gold earlier that way.

As Amumu, you generally aren't going to need a modified smite anyway, so you could even go into Rylai's or a tank item then.

XIII VanitasMay 28, 20161 votes

But I think that I really need item 3751 to clear faster. Otherwise it would take even more time to get 2600 gold. Maybe I could just buy Bami's Cinder and leave it there instead of finishing Cinderhulk, but I find the chilling smite quite nice if I have to delay item 3116 .

WoonStruckMay 29, 20162 votes

RoA's 'healing' is not good on Amumu.

His Q is over RoA's heal cap, so only heals the max 25 and has a long CD.

His W is only 8 mana per second. That means 2 health per second.

His E is only ~7 HP per cast.

Ult is 25. If you're in an extended fight (2 Q casts), you will only get ~110-130 HP, depending on E. 90% of fights will be much shorter than that. Especially because you're Amumu. I'd also like to mention that I was EXTREMELY generous with E casts (40% CDR, due to flat reduction) for this example. You're likely not getting more than 90 HP most of the time.

You're better off going cinderhulk, Rylai's (nobody can chew through significant HP early), Abyssal (if you want the AP, plus MR stacks well with passive), Liandry's if you're against a lot of tanks, or 2 armor items if not. Swap an armor for an MR if you're against 4 AP.

If you REALLY need that mana, you should grab item 3800 , as it also helps you position for your q and ult better. RoA only offers 500 HP now. Its time investment and build path are not worth it for AP tanks anymore unless you're Maokai. Even then, its not great.

Finally, you don't need cinder to clear as Amumu. You should be maxing E first, W second, which gives you surprisingly fast clears if you're applying your passive to everything.

Balderdash1000May 28, 20161 votes

IMO a lot depends on your play style. If you find yourself running out of mana often with Amumu then the item is great. If you aren't having mana problems, skip it. The heal is nice, but it's not enough in itself to make RoA worth getting.

XIII VanitasMay 28, 20161 votes

I would get it not only for the heal, but also for the mana regen. The item gives you mana back based on the damage dealt on you. Which means that it would be helpful during teamfights, when my mana bar goes down really fast after doing a full combo and spamming E, while keeping my W active. I'm also asking myself if item 3027 is better than item 3110 on Amumu, because they both give the same amount of mana, but the first one gives also health and hp, while the second one gives armor and cdr.

III BAKURYU III May 28, 20161 votes

item 3027 Is nice for its per level but if you want to get big just get your Jungler item Cinderhulk and get item 3116 or any other Ap item that fits the situation with your team and the enemy team. When I go Amumu Jungle his clear kinda sucks for me so I just go Tank runes and get big off those items in the first place.
Armor and Hp FLAT REDS HP per level YELLOWS MR per level BLUES 1 ARMOR FLAT 2 HP FLAT. Just my thoughts and Have a Good One !