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Please, for the love of Nagakabouros, give TB Skyen a fat female champion

XIII Vanitas··51 votes·15,901 views

We could also have a proper old hag, or a battle-scarred (maybe one-armed?) female veteran from either the Noxian or the Demacian army. Just give the man something so that he'll finally get over their absence from the game, because every single attractive female champion that gets released will inevitably trigger one of his classic quarter-hour-long tirades. And, to be honest, he isn't even entirely wrong about it: we have over 140 champions and those archetypes are yet to be explored.

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Asudurga25 votes

Braum's Mother? She sounds like a tough ol lady.

Wert the Wacky2 votes

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Braum's Mother? She sounds like a tough ol lady.

Braum’s mother is the already canon character that I want most as a champ.

FallingMeteor15 votes

I wish we got an old lady support or mage that casts hexes and stuff. All the old female champions look pretty young.Camille Neeko Zoe Leblanc Elise Zyra

Phieldworker1 votes

They did say a new ad assassin so it was hinting at a spry younger character. Not that old can’t be mobile but I usually don’t associate limping hunched over human with assassin.

FallingMeteor2 votes

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They did say a new ad assassin so it was hinting at a spry younger character. Not that old can’t be mobile but I usually don’t associate limping hunched over human with assassin.

We can have an old lady assassin that has extremely powerful traps, but on the downside has no mobility

SkarletHart4 votes

OMG just thinking about a witty old lady complaining about the youngsters in her lane cracks me up. This would be great!

Larriet3 votes

All our older female champs just happen to have some kind of magic keeping them youthful, what a coincidence. I wanna point out that Lissandra also fits this category.

Phieldworker10 votes

Yeah I watched that video and I was like he’s not wrong. Her design is boring. I’m sure she’ll be fun but I thought she would be this jungle looking person. Not someone from the old version of league.

ForgottenLuck5 votes

Going to be honest, I never understand things like boring design. Like... what do you mean by it? Do you want a clown character? or do you want to take the overwatch route and just give her a robot arm like... Every individual in this planet will have different views on any design that they look, like, to give an idea, I find Dark Star Jhin not that interesting yet all I hear is praise for it, yet I like Qiyana design a lot and find it fun and interesting, I am intrigued to see more of what her character role is in the world.

Or maybe a better example to not match skin to Champion I find Garen to be really interesting, especially compared to maybe other champions like Swain, Ahri, or Illaoi yet I am sure many pref thoughts to Garen, yet who can say one is more or less interesting than the other? What gives one the reason, or right or power to decree that?

Phieldworker2 votes

It’s not that people are saying you can’t like it. It’s just an opinion which is a right everyone has. You can take it or leave it after that.

What I consider boring design is when I see a new champ or rework, upon first seeing them it should drive a hype in me. When I saw her I was like “ she looks like something from one of the league of legends knock offs”. I expecting something like avatar Korra. Not exactly so Eskimo but someone who is female but also looks powerful. She’s a queen of an unknown nation and controls the elements so that’s why I expected someone who exudes physical strength. Not quite Illaoi but something in between Ashe and Illaoi. Kind of like sejuani.

Boring to me is someone who looks like they are just a new skin of an existing champ. I like Kali sa but she was a boring design for me because she just looked like ahri with a good

Again this is just an opinion and it shouldn’t take away from how anyone feels about Qiyana.

Simplicate3 votes

boring as in looks just as copy paste as all the other human champions, we want them to get creative not only with these characters backgrounds but what they looks like and body shape is apart of that

Blåsigt8 votes

To be honest, it would be nice for some variety when it comes to the human champions - everyone seems to be some the same young person. Swain used to be a nice outlier in the roster, but we know how that turned out... I would love to see some kind of obese pirate wench with crazy cleavage or something.

Velasan5 votes

Can we have all of those?

I would love to see a witch character, and a battle veteran, and another half hextech piltover person (like Hive we saw previewed, but was never implemented).

Anyways, for me personally I'd love to see the witch the most. With like a gnarly staff/broomstick and some kind of familiar that follows her around. Maybe a support who can use the familiar to scout in place of wards?

Oh! Also, that hextech support woman they never made, where she had some kind of giant mech weapon. Can't remember the name right now so if someone still has pictures of that go ahead and link it.

Blåsigt1 votes

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Can we have all of those?

I would love to see a witch character, and a battle veteran, and another half hextech piltover person (like Hive we saw previewed, but was never implemented).

Anyways, for me personally I'd love to see the witch the most. With like a gnarly staff/broomstick and some kind of familiar that follows her around. Maybe a support who can use the familiar to scout in place of wards?

Oh! Also, that hextech support woman they never made, where she had some kind of giant mech weapon. Can't remember the name right now so if someone still has pictures of that go ahead and link it.

Isn't Orianna a hextech woman?

AbiwonKenabi3 votes

bUt sHe'S sKInNy

I would personally count her as a different body type, since even though she's technically the traditional body type, she's also kind of creepy and uncanny, and her design is not necessarily trying to be attractive. She idealized, but uncanny.

Also, I think the hextech support woman they were referring to was not made of hextech, she was a design concept that used a hextech weapon that was eventually turned into Braum I believe.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

The champion was called Husk, H.I.V.E. was the name of her organisation. And she was more chemtech augmented than hextech.

The hextech support you remember was probably CeeCee, which they cancelled and reworked the idea for her into Braum. http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150307164955/leagueoflegends/images/3/31/Braum_CeeCee_pre-concept.jpg

It's really a shame that Riot comes up with so great designs for Piltover and Zaun, but then always end up cancelling them and reworking them into different champions from other regions....

Blåsigt4 votes

I am not sure I would describe Illaoi as fat. She certainly has a very, very, very, VERY broad body for a woman, but she appears to be all muscle.

XIII Vanitas3 votes

Illaoi definitely represents the bodybuilder archetype. She's muscular, not fat.

DeleteSuppRole4 votes

what the hell is a "TB Skyen"?

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Give me a chembaroness. That's all.

warmcorntortilla3 votes

God im drooling at the thought of a badass, battle-scarred, one-armed, tough-as-nails, 40+ y/o Noxian war veteran. Stuck in their ways, no patience, bitter, ruthless, merciless. God. When the boards have better character design concepts than the actual game.

Edit: a woman, tho.

XIII Vanitas2 votes

I mean, the narrative team gave us both Tianna Crownguard (Garen and Lux's aunt) and the late Quilleta Varn (Darius' childhood friend and former lover). They just need to turn one of them into a playable character.

NelsieLisnen3 votes

To be honest he sounds entirely right. There is an audience for all the archetypes we haven't gotten yet but riot keep pandering to a ghost demographic they already know how to please.

BLACK REALM GOD3 votes

in all honesty... i'd love an old hag style witch doctor.

DancingDinos2 votes

I believe at one point a witch doctor champion was in development, but was scrapped. I'd love to see them revisit the idea

BLACK REALM GOD4 votes

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I believe at one point a witch doctor champion was in development, but was scrapped. I'd love to see them revisit the idea

it's going to be a while probably. You know how they have those polls to see what new character we want reworked or what new skin we want added? I wonder how successful if would be if they did a new champion archetype poll. Probably pretty awful to be honest...

MordridtheBlack2 votes

Illaoi enough said

AnotherPurple37919 votes

She's literally the only one non-skinny female Champion among over 20 skinny ones. Plus, she's muscular, not fat. We can have more than one non-skinny female Champion.

GelsominoKiller4 votes

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She's literally the only one non-skinny female Champion among over 20 skinny ones. Plus, she's muscular, not fat. We can have more than one non-skinny female Champion.

Or... We could make a compromise and have somewhat skinny females, but with AT THE VERY LEAST, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, with a slightly different body/face type..

Lady Sylum11 votes

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Illaoi enough said

1 , freakin 1 , out of over 100...enough said

SettDownShutUp2 votes

How about giving us Braum's Mamma!

XIII Vanitas2 votes

They can't, she's too powerful.

King Braum2 votes

I still want to see a champion like Ash's mom adapted to the game, even if she's dead. She was awesome.

grayamir2 votes

Wish they'd make a champ similar to Professor McGonagall from the Harry Potter series. She may be a wrinkly old lady but she's still very charming, plus she's witty and powerful. There is a distinct lack of snarky old lady quips in LoL, and I would like this to be fixed xD. Like, an actually old looking old lady, not the "she's over 18, I swear!", old ladies.

Rito needs to step out of their comfort zone, they can afford to try something different, even if it doesn't yield Lux level profit.

IceKingChernobog2 votes

Who’s TB Skyen and why should i care about him?

Makarakarn1 votes

No..just no..I personally don't care for representation where it shouldn't be. Not that representation is bad, but that it has a place, and existing outside that place for the sake of existing is wack. That is how I feel about representation. Now let me clarify, there is a collosal difference between representation and pandering. If Riot right now sees this post and goes and makes this champion just to please whoever we're talking about, that's pandering. Pandering just shouldn't exist, I don't think I need to explain more.

Cetri1 votes

I don't see how representation would be out of place.

Makarakarn2 votes

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I don't see how representation would be out of place.

Representation would be out of place if said representation made absolutely litterally zero sense.

Cetri1 votes

Alright? No one's asking for representation that would make absolutely literally zero sense.

Makarakarn1 votes

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Alright? No one's asking for representation that would make absolutely literally zero sense.

Please, joke with someone who wants it

Cetri1 votes

Not sure I understand your meaning here tbh

AMADEUSdotEXE2 votes

Literally name one reason why it would benefit the game. if it has to deal with making players feel more welcome bring data. the ONLY group statistically proven to actually engage MORE with media when represented is Women and we still don't have an answer why. Look it up.

Cetri1 votes

If it really boggles you that much as to why, then I'm not sure I could give you a satisfactory answer.

AMADEUSdotEXE1 votes

If it really boggles you that much as to why, then I'm not sure I could give you a satisfactory answer.

"Try"

XIII Vanitas1 votes

It's not even about representation, it's about breaking the mold. If your character designs look too similar to one another, they quickly get boring and uninteresting.

Makarakarn2 votes

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It's not even about representation, it's about breaking the mold. If your character designs look too similar to one another, they quickly get boring and uninteresting.

Breaking the mold? Another subjective thing that shouldn't be held above the quality of the game.

Cetri2 votes

TIL that not having homogeneous character designs could somehow have a negative impact on game quality

XIII Vanitas1 votes

Exactly this.

BlindfoldedRaven1 votes

The game is about champions, the greatest fighters and mages in the world. Why would one of the greatest fighters in the world be old and/or fat?

I can understand having a really muscular female character like Illaoi, but champions are supposed to be young and fit.

I can understand the idea of an old witch, but that's kind of a generic idea.

XIII Vanitas2 votes

Because magic and technology exist. Swain is old and crippled, Gragas is fat, Urgot has several body parts missing, yet still they're all formidable fighters and more than valid character designs.

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