I miss reporting players for "unskilled"

XIII Vanitas··82 votes·4,063 views

Maybe it didn't have any effect, but it relieved some stress. Kinda tired of seeing people repeatedly jumping in the middle of the enemy team and dying in a 1v5. It's ok if you do it once or twice, but after that it looks like you're trying to lose the game on purpose.

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DevilishMetal20 votes

Actually, the "Unskilled" report category did have a minor effect on matchmaking if I remember correctly. It wasn't a good system in the first place. If you need ways to vent, might I recommend screaming at your computer or going and getting some exercise? I use both, and they've always been helpful.

P.S. Please don't take the "get exercise" thing as an insult. It's just what I do when I'm frustrated at anything.

Zeurth1 votes

it only had an effect on normal matchmaking. A very minor one at that.

LordGeovanni3 votes

i would curse the super fuk out of my computer but i have younger siblings and highly hypocritical parents

Malhammers9 votes

There is a report system for that...its called telling them "you suck" and you get banned for it. It's actually pretty intuitive and has a great impact and success rate...

Dominick Destine8 votes

If my memory doesn't fail; I'm pretty sure Riot outright stated that it did nothing.

JerrBear71 votes

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If my memory doesn't fail; I'm pretty sure Riot outright stated that it did nothing.

My friend told me that it decreased your MMR a tiny bit.

Dominick Destine2 votes

Your friend is wrong.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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Your friend is wrong.

I was confused about whether it did anything in S5, but in S1 and beta I know it did indeed have an effect on their MMR. This was back before Riot had more confidence in their matchmaking system.

alasarcher7 votes

Problem was, people would come on forum and cry how people they report for unskilled arent getting punished. They didnt understand it was placebo effect. So it just got removed.

High51 votes

It made me feel better. I'm not perfect, but 1-16 should be a reportable offense. In the new dynamic selection, that kind of play is even worse.

I don't play so that people can waste 20 mins of my time trying Thresh in the jungle.

Jakra4 votes

The report system is there to punish people for unacceptable behaviour, such as cheating, racism, bullying, etc. Just being unskilled shouldn't be a reason to report, it only encouraged people to report others as punishment for doing bad in a game.

Not to mention, it's not fair to make such a report when you're likely only going to be paired with him/her the once.

XIII Vanitas2 votes

I know, in fact I believe that its only true purpose was to relieve some stress (as I've already said). I've never asked for it to be a legitimate system, I just miss it as a virtual punching bag for the times you would like to say "fuck you!" to your own teammates.

DeynaTaggerung3 votes

Haha I kind of do too. I actually loved the fact that I had a report option that didn't actually have any real effect on them, so I could click it without having to worry about accusing someone that's probably actually innocent.

I guess it was just too much of a clarity issue because a lot of people assumed being unskilled was a bannable offense :/

For Carthage1 votes

If enough people reported, it resulted in MMR loss. With dynamic queue, it'd be a dirty trick to have a 4-man queue all report the final pug for being unskilled just to troll him. Doesn't matter a ton in norms, but getting shafted in ranked because you pointed out something stupid one of their friends is doing can be an issue.

Zedex3 votes

So you miss wasting time on a useless report that went straight to the Recycle Bin?

Egomaniacs are great!

XIII Vanitas1 votes

Why do you say "egomaniacs"?

Radioactive Man2 votes

You do know that was meant as a trap and people that used it a lot had their other reports ignored right?

XIII Vanitas2 votes

Sorry, it didn't work like that. The report just slightly lowered your normal mmr, if you collected enough reports. It didn't have any effect on the "serious ones" (verbal abuse, intentionally feeding, etc...)

J Epstein2 votes

I think it's funny that we always see people complaining about being banned for being toxic. Atleast we know toxic bahavior can be ban worthy. I've yet to see somebody complain about being banned for feeding. whats that say about the "intentionally feeding" report? people know they can get away with it by saying "oh sorry guys, i'm trying"

Meeptheking1 votes

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I think it's funny that we always see people complaining about being banned for being toxic. Atleast we know toxic bahavior can be ban worthy. I've yet to see somebody complain about being banned for feeding. whats that say about the "intentionally feeding" report? people know they can get away with it by saying "oh sorry guys, i'm trying"

The problem is when your really not feeding on purpose and people report you anywayitem 3151 [zombie-nunu-tears]

ofart1 votes

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I think it's funny that we always see people complaining about being banned for being toxic. Atleast we know toxic bahavior can be ban worthy. I've yet to see somebody complain about being banned for feeding. whats that say about the "intentionally feeding" report? people know they can get away with it by saying "oh sorry guys, i'm trying"

There was actually a recent thread about a guy getting banned for intentionally feeding but he was saying that he was just bad and his match history wasn't terrible so idk.

Daxterr2 votes

I'm sorry but there's a difference between intentional feeding and being unskilled. It's usually pretty obvious when someone is actively trying to lose the game. Reporting for unskilled however was always a stupid idea and if the MMR system works at all there should be no need to do it.

ButtheCatCameBak1 votes

Six games in a row of 3 intentional double digit feeders. thumbs up gj Riot.

Wait, sorry 7 games.

XIII Vanitas3 votes

This post is not about intentional feeders. It's about players who look like intentional feeders, but they're actually trying. Which can be considered worse?

ButtheCatCameBak1 votes

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This post is not about intentional feeders. It's about players who look like intentional feeders, but they're actually trying. Which can be considered worse?

There are all kinds of different feeders and people can talk about whatever kind they like. Also, that question has a pretty easy answer when you stop to think about asking such players if they are looking at the freely available information on the internet that can help someone improve their play. Which is actually secondary to the idea of asking if said people are accepting the responsibility of that play, or if they are trying to make excuses for it. As more than one poster has said before. Things like "It's normals, chill." etc and other patronizing commentary is the hallmark of people simply looking to ruin other people's games.

Rendarkan1 votes

I intentionally feed bots. Cause where's the fun in stomping them early? Just don't feed a bot Galio or Taric. Holy hell that gave me nightmares for a few days.

LordGeovanni2 votes

if most of your team has double digit deaths and you dont unless you jungle it points more to that they were protecting you as their carry or you were abandoning them during fights than it does to them intentionally feeding. even more so if the enemy also has some people with double digit deaths

ButtheCatCameBak1 votes

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if most of your team has double digit deaths and you dont unless you jungle it points more to that they were protecting you as their carry or you were abandoning them during fights than it does to them intentionally feeding. even more so if the enemy also has some people with double digit deaths

Unfortunately not. The situations I am referring to are not only people not doing team or objective oriented things. But people who openly brag that they are suiciding into the enemy team 1 v 4 or 5, often into unwarded river or jungle to do it. And more often than not it's people doing so at a clip of 1 or 1.7 deaths per minute without the first 19 minutes of the game. We are talking people who not only do not understand basic concepts of the game, but actively do not do them just to spite people.

ButtheCatCameBak1 votes

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Unfortunately not. The situations I am referring to are not only people not doing team or objective oriented things. But people who openly brag that they are suiciding into the enemy team 1 v 4 or 5, often into unwarded river or jungle to do it. And more often than not it's people doing so at a clip of 1 or 1.7 deaths per minute without the first 19 minutes of the game. We are talking people who not only do not understand basic concepts of the game, but actively do not do them just to spite people.

Oh and I will add. Despite the denial being shown, another example. I had to go 17/4/5 in a game as Fiora, with a weird split push build due to three intentional afk's and an adc teemo I was paired with who was a toxic trolling person from the game RIGHT BEFORE IT that I had to report and block. This included a jungler who intentionally stalled out a game we effectively won off of a late teamfight we aced because he wanted to intentionally being spiteful and ran to his own wolves instead of trying to race mid to try to get out the nexus towers before two death timers were expiring. This may be hard for you to get through your head. But there are in fact people in this game who intentionally sabotage games just to attempt to inflict mental anguish on others. And after seeing it for three years. I'm not sure what is more sad and disturbing. Riot's responses(ie it's lack there of), or the fact the game draws so many people like that.

LordGeovanni1 votes

people who will do things to spite you very common but not more common than not you seem to be trying to make it like oh why are they doing this to me when they are trying to do their best and it happens to go wrong. people who brag are even less because no matter how much they want to troll as long as they dont admit it its a slim chance they will be punished you wont get these people but 1 in 70 games even at the lowest of bronze slightly more for people who claim this is their smurf (the smurf that with their should be advance skills got placed and match made with bronze)

Ecodeath1 votes

ur bronze. u have no right to talk

XIII Vanitas1 votes

Wtf are you talking about? I don't even play ranked games!

Ecodeath1 votes

hmm bronze attitude tho

XIII Vanitas1 votes

You know what else is bronze attitude? Being unable to accept you were wrong, so you try to clutch at straws. It's also common in toxic players that get banned and blame their teammates for it.

KitsuneTrickster1 votes

If they are jumping into a 1v5, they are trolling and assisting enemy team.

XIII Vanitas1 votes

No, they just aren't smart. It's pretty easy to spot the difference between an intentional feeder and someone having a REALLY bad game if you're playing with them.

A8KkXovSOf1 votes

The circle jerking is real. They need to end reporting all together. It does nothing but promote toxic cry teens to never stfu. MOVE ON.

Lm1uliVXAg2 votes

lol yup. let's not have an option to remove the people who type "gg ff 20" five minutes into the game after they got ganked once. or the people who intentionally feed because the jg didn't give them the first blue. your idea is phenomenal!

A8KkXovSOf1 votes

"remove the people" that is cute. You can do anything u want in this game as long as you don't type. If you wanted to troll or disco nunu but never typed or at least did not admit anything or say something on riots unapproved list, you would never be kicked. Reporting is like pissing into the wind. Riot spending resources and energy on it is like pissing in the wind. I would rather be able to log on right now then report someone. .........like it matters.

Lm1uliVXAg1 votes

here's what u do. check the box for cheating/unapproved 3rd party programs and type "boosted" in the description box lmao

siilentdeath1 votes

doing it more than 2 times is intentional feeding. so you can still report it. if the same player keeps doing the same action its an intentional action. accidentally doing it would imply them only doing it once.

DeloricVI1 votes

I feel like the lack of the option encourages people to report for trolling/intentional feeding instead. Either it wastes the time of the people who oversee these claims, or gets people banned unnecessarily if said people fuck up. :/

Krigjer1 votes

I don't understand how you can KNOW performing an action does nothing (reporting for unskilled causes no action against the player) and yet it still relieves your stress?

XIII Vanitas1 votes

Physical exercise, for example, does nothing to solve your problems, but it relieves stress anyways.

Krigjer1 votes

Physical exercise, for example, does nothing to solve your problems, but it relieves stress anyways.

Exercise actually releases chemicals in the brain that help relieve stress. So no, it doesn't solve your problems, but it can help you relax and think more clearly....

I'm merely stating that I think it's an odd practice to press a button 'to relieve stress' when you know it doesn't actually do anything.

ImperialKain1 votes

You know. I only reporting one player for this in ARAM..... A Katarina that built the old item 3508. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

JusticeReigns1 votes

Unskilled should of had the ability of requiring players to win 10 bot games to go back to play ranks if enough people reported them for that.

Festive Bear1 votes

I wish they would bring it back, affect their matchmaking, make it be with people of their own category of skill. It really piffs me off because during the preseason, i got gold 5 as my rank. I started getting matched with people with about 500-700 wins and I would loose almost every game. After maybe, 60 goddamn games, i finally started getting placed with people at my own win rate.

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