Can we make it so when Noc doesn't use the dash on his ultimate it has a lower CD?

U4fyn2vZzW··30 votes·1,137 views

There are plenty of times when I want to use his ultimate simply for the reduced vision effect, it can be used to enhance other ganks your teammates, cover, stall objectives, etc.

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Windfallen2 votes

Or sometimes it becomes apparent it's a bad idea and you have to waste it... Or you're hovering at max range lmao.

Spacesuit Spiff2 votes

They were considering this last summer, I'm surprised it didn't go through. I think a Red made a topic about it on ye olde GD

Solidair32 votes

They tried this on the PBE a while back, but I think they didn't go through with it because Noc's would pretty much just use it on cooldown for the vision denial, not use the dash, and just wait for it to come back up and do it all again.

LordKentravyon1 votes

thats a fair tactic, and if i remember correctly it was only a 20% refund when it was on PBE so it was still a substantial cooldown but gave you some strategic "fear" uses of his ult which suits his theme.

Furthermore there's nothing worse then useing his ult, loosing vision then having to wait 3min, other champs such as Cait get it back / partial refund

bunglyfe1 votes

cd needs to be lowered period. whats the diff between his ult and tfs / pantheons?

qetzel1 votes

The cooldown is already shorter than TF's 180-140-100 compared to 180-150-120. It is quite different to Pantheon's ultimate. It has no delay and is unavoidable.

The Lexer1 votes

Id like to add that TFs is much longer range and grants vision the whole time as well, making it much more useful considering the CD

qetzel1 votes

I ignored that function of TFs ultimate along with Nocturne's vision denial as I wasn't sure how to value each effect.

I think that the denial is much stronger in teamfights and engages (late game) whereas the vision is better for picks, particularly in the early game, and scouting Baron etc.

Durzaka1 votes

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cd needs to be lowered period. whats the diff between his ult and tfs / pantheons?

Nocturnes is targeted. Unlike TF and pantheon.

Talamare1 votes

The difference is that his ultimate isolates you, it heavily deny's the information you get

Bad Nocs use it at the start of the fight, use it instead as information denial during the middle of the fight

Saucefam1 votes

Late game Nocturne ult is so damn good, there is no need to BUFF!!

The Lexer1 votes

so make it 120/110/100 instead?

The Lexer1 votes

Can we make it so the Noc's CD is just lower in general?????

Like from 180/140/100 to ~120/100/80 and make it so that when he doesnt dash it is ~80/60/40

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