People Complain about the obvious mobility creep.

ScurvyNave·Feb 24, 2015·20 votes·1,550 views

Riot's Solution:

Continue releasing more mobile champions and an adc who, are generally the least mobile as this is their primary weakness, who is more mobile than any other champion in the league:.

Change Ahri to a more mobile form and when it becomes apparent that was a bad decision they nerf her range rather than the actually issue which was her mobility.

Make Veigar's stun even more dodge able for mobile champions.

Don't give the new supposedly bruiser style Mordekaiser any form of cc.

Genius.....just Genius!

GG League of Mobility GG

27 Comments

Marinaras TrenchFeb 24, 20156 votes

Yes insulting the balance team is the best way to solve this problem :/

lojicianFeb 24, 20158 votes

I mean attempting to constructively reason with them doesn't work so who knows.

GnomeDigestFeb 24, 20155 votes

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I mean attempting to constructively reason with them doesn't work so who knows.

This. All Riot does now is talk at the community. All they do is try to sell you on what they have already decided. They otherwise ignore player feedback.

So if insulting Riot makes you feel better at least there was an effect from doing so. Trying to reason with them has no effect.

AbrahamBaconhamFeb 24, 20151 votes

Well it's not often people try, and those that do are downvoted into oblivion and buried under the dozens of QQ threads. A lot of people on the boards claim to want constructive discussion, but whenever a Red actually shows up, it turns into something like a fucking witch hunt.

Remeber that one thread a few weeks back? "Hey everyone, Tamat made a thread about Board structure! Go there to yell and swear and curse at him, show that asshole how angry we are about "le reddit" style forums!"

Its stupid and ruthless and it makes the reds not want to show up in anything. Why would they? Game devs just so happen to be people too, and nobody likes being abused online.

lojicianFeb 24, 20151 votes

There are plenty of times people provide insight into things riot balance apparently either doesn't understand or ignores. And there would be even more if riot actually listened. Even "QQ threads" usually have a point even if it's been made so often the new ones don't provide new information. And there would probably be fewer of these redundant threads if riot actually cared instead of doing shit like acknowledging mobility creep then releasing kalista.

I used to attempt to explain perceived problems to the reds a ton. I play mostly top lane so the instant I saw the d-shield gutting I knew what was going to happen. I explained that d-shield served to help survive ranged harass. I brainstormed new solutions to help melee top laners survive range without making supports who don't have to expose themselves to cs too unpokeable. I tried to talk about melee vs range interactions in lane.

But riot completely ignored me and other top lane players that actually knew what they were talking about, promised they'd fix it if the nerf had unintended consequences, and proceeded to make it blatantly clear their promise was a lie doing jack shit about fighters being pushed out of top lane except playing whack-a-mole with whatever the most broken ranged top is (but only 3 months after they're an obvious problem).

Riot completely fails to understand some aspects of their game but stubbornly stay the course anyway and then after it's proven that they were wrong they refuse to deal with it. That's the reason people repeat themselves and lose civility, not the other way around.

LelouchtheGreatFeb 24, 20156 votes

Yeah the creeps' mobility is getting out of hand, damn minions

FuzziestPickleFeb 24, 20154 votes

Yeah, sometimes the creeps seem to just go really fast through the lane for no reason whatsoever. Riot pls nerf random minion speed boosts.

OblongOtterFeb 24, 20153 votes

It's hilarious though.

TalamareFeb 24, 20155 votes

I see you guys are complaining about the mobility creep - sprays lube on hand Well, we heard your concerns and we would like you to know we care - unzips So please, just wait patiently as we take steps to fix this issue - bends you over

67chromeFeb 24, 20153 votes

People Complain about the obvious mobility creep.

Power creep implies new content is out-phasing old content, making old stuff irrelevent. As such mobility creep implies new champions are more mobile than old champions, and thusly out-phasing them.

But mobility has always been really important throughout LoL's history.

There hasn't been a time when people were like " TwistedFate 's ability to teleport anywhere he wants on the map with a QWE skill is so useless, why doesn't he do 500 damages with it instead?" They were more like, OMFG nerf . His ability to teleport anywhere on the map with a QWE is totally broken!

Kassadin had relatively similar fame for his ability to be Kassadin.

Also - since the dawn of time, there's been a ton of posts in the forum that basically go: Akali Shaco MasterYi Tryndamere Kassadin Katarina Khazix Zed Fizz Diana Leblanc LeeSin Pantheon Rengar Talon Yasuo Is so OP. You can't run away from them, how is diving you under your tower fair? I was chased from halfway across the map and they killed me under tower I don't know how many times, then they just murdered my team. What gives Riot?

Which also makes complaining about mobility pretty suspect, seeing as the most mobile class in the game (assassins) specifically operates on exploiting the mistakes of opponents, which happens a lot in low Elo games, and spawns by far the most QQ posts.

And really, the main reason champions like Kassadin Corki Ezreal Tristana Jax TwistedFate Shen Pantheon aren't being used as much isn't because the mobility on new champions is making them obsolete, it's because Riot was getting fed up with them dominating the meta and nerffed them.

For that matter, there's still some pretty ancient champions like LeeSin Nidalee JarvanIV Katarina That are certainly holding their own against a wide range of newer champions.

I'm not sure I'd really call Zed more mobile than Kassadin , Khazix more mobile than Shaco , Braum more mobile than Malphite . Kalista seems to have a bit of an edge on Ezreal , but Ezreal still has better mobility in terms of not coming within CC/gap-closed-on-face range and he can jump over a Zigg's minefield without detonating everything, where the same can't be said of Kalista.

Anyways - You can't have mobility creep if there's no power creep in the first place.

Sona PingFeb 24, 20152 votes

They were more like, OMFG nerf . His ability to teleport anywhere on the map with a QWE is totally broken!

Kassadin had relatively similar fame for his ability to be Kassadin.

Sooo...your counter-point to all these complaints about mobility being unfair to immobile champion is to point out other instances where the problem people complained about was that a champ had an advantage...by being mobile. This is what we would call "not evidence to the contrary".

67chromeFeb 24, 20151 votes

Sooo...your counter-point to all these complaints about mobility being unfair to immobile champion

The OP is talking about mobility creep. My post is talking about mobility creep.

Mobility being unfair to immobile champions is not mobility creep.

Sona PingFeb 24, 20152 votes

The examples you have demonstrate, not "an important part of LoL history", but a "persistent problem".

Like I said, everything you wrote is not a good counter-argument.

JunkοFeb 24, 20153 votes

I'm not sure I'd really call more mobile than

Except he is in every possible way

SirsirFeb 24, 20151 votes

Only if he gets Resets

JunkοFeb 24, 20152 votes

Let's see what Shaco has: -a blink that stealths

Kha has: -a leap that has about the same range, when evolved it has longer range and resets on kill -3 movement speed boosts that also stealth him

SirsirFeb 24, 20151 votes

Cooldowns. Shaco has it on 11 seconds, Kha's is 12 seconds at max rank, 20 seconds on level 1. On an ability he maxes last.

And you can hardly call a puny 40% ms buff for 3 seconds (if evolved, 6 seconds total) actual mobility. It does count, but just barely.

SlytherMinnFeb 24, 20151 votes

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ScurvyNaveFeb 24, 20152 votes

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SlytherMinnFeb 24, 20151 votes

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ScurvyNaveFeb 24, 20151 votes

I knew you would do that Zilean

DorkunedAurasFeb 24, 20151 votes

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DankyNugzFeb 24, 20152 votes

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ForgiveColourFeb 24, 20151 votes

lets pretend league of cc is dead

blueberrypancakeFeb 24, 20151 votes

I have a theory that League of Silences will start to come back into the meta to reduce number of escapes, however it would require a significant buff to Garen and Fiddle. Caster Adc's like Graves and Ezreal are coming back and a decent amount of Kalista's kit revolves around her abilties so silence couldn't be the worst thing ever. Champs like Zed have a hard time against bruiser explaining why he isn't a top lane pick.

meatjunjunFeb 24, 20151 votes

To be fair, the people who like to complain are usually the loudest. When people like something, they don't say a word. But when anything makes them butt hurt, that's when they cry foul. This doesn't mean they're right or that they're even the majority. It just means they're loud.

I for one love mobility. One of the requirements for me in picking a champ is if they have some way to move around the map quickly.