"Shut up he's carrying you lol"
Not sure if this should belong in Player Behaviour but whatever.
So I still remember, a set of games back I had encountered a Vel'Koz support that was tilting to say the least. First of all I would like to clarify I am a support main, and I understand a lot of the mistakes that supports do are not intentional, and I don't blame them for the little stuff. Nevertheless saying, I was doing pretty shitty in that game. Not 0/4 shitty, but still pretty bad (behind in farm, enemy ahead with some kills). I understand the concept that if you're doing bad, at least let someone else on your team thrive if they can, and be a carry. But this was not applicable to my case. At the beginning of laning phase, I am an adc that struggles with CS-ing sometimes since I am used to maining support, and not needing to last-hit unless with Relic Supports (please let me take the cannon). My support had the exact same amount of CS as me when I asked several times politely to not hit the wave, not auto the wave he wouldn't mess up the positioning of my wave, wouldn't mess up my CS-ing patterns.
He said 'k' and continued to do it. OVER and OVER again. I got denied any possible sort of lead/possible opportunity to catch up on items compared to the other ADC. Let me remind you my support took a Doran's Ring. My god. I asked so many times, and said "Don't auto the wave please" "Don't take my minions please" And adding onto that, he took every single kill in laning phase. At this point I was completely irritated and I got mad, telling him why in the process.
He started screaming about HOW HE WANTED TO GO VEL'KOZ TOP and MID and didn't want to be support anyways. But how in any way does that condone his behaviour? I understand if I was being an asshole about it at the beginning but I had given it so much patience. And when I said "report Vel'koz" in all chat the enemy team was like "Shut up you're being carried" / "He's carrying you lol". I asked him to get a support item to ward at least but he refused.
I definitely agree I could've played better that game mechanically and macro-wise, and I have mistakes to work on myself. But how am I supposed to carry/perform equally when my support pulls this sort of ape shit? Hell, if you wanted to play Vel ADC you could've told me and I'll cooperate with a Caitlyn/Xayah support with Coin and it'd be better than playing that shitty excuse of a game. [sg-lux-2]
it is one of the indications that they're either bad or don't have any knowledge of supp. If you'd said them to go
first and they started with doran's, it is intentional. Though taking cs isn't against rule, not taking support item is kind of giving advantage to opponents in vision game; as a supp I punish opponents hard for not having enough vision by warding their jg and setting up ambushes. Now, as an adc you did great by keeping cool because I have seen adc players troll/int/afk even if I had taken like 5 cs in 10 mins and not even disturbing their farming; however, as soon as you see your supp start with non supp item just freeze the wave near turret-only last hit opponent minions and let them push.
times spells correctly they cant take minions. Idk what champ you played too, but as an aa champ you can farm more than ability users; am not justifying their actions, but they've cooldowns and constraint on mana-but you don't. Lastly it is not advisable to write report player X, because that itself is reportable(strange right xD).