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Don't Blame The Support and the Jungler For Losing Your Game. Here's Why -

atorelle·2/19/2019, 6:49:52 AM·4 votes·4,657 views

I'll try to keep this as short as possible. [sg-ahri-2]

DON'T BLAME YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR JUNGLER FOR LOSING THE GAME. Unless:

  • They're feeding on purpose.
  • They're being toxic.
  • They unfulfilling for their role and don't know what to do in obvious situations.
  • They actually fuck up.

Still, some people are to blame in some situations, but by saying don't blame them is: Don't blame them for something that could be not controlled by THEM. E.g. You mispositioned and got killed.

Yes, we know all know that familiar feeling when you fuck up and you're losing lane pretty badly. No one wants to feel that way, but think about in times when you were winning hard and having a good time beating the absolute &#$%@ out of your lane, they probably felt the same. Just do better next game.

Now, I will admit i'm guilty of being incredibly mad and flaming my jungler a few times where he wasn't deserved. Whoever is that guy, I'm sorry dude. I shouldn't have done that, but we all make mistakes and you're human. And just because your jungler didn't help when you were being ganked that once time, doesn't mean he's trash. Think about the times when your jungler needed help and you didn't provide it because you just simply didn't notice, but he didn't scream in your face and call you terrible.

Ganking. We know that frustration when the enemy team's jungler is ganking you multiple times, and your own jungler doesn't gank you that much. We've all had that game where your jungler ganks the winning lane more than they gank your lane. Sometimes, try to think from the jungler's mindset. Yes, maybe it's not the best thing to do from the jungler depending on your situation, but sometimes there are situations where the jungler can't do anything. And I'm saying from how their champion is limited to an extent. For example, you have an Eve on your team and the enemy has a Xin Zhao. Xin Zhao proactively ganks you and invades your jungle. Eve is weak early game and her powerspike is mid game. She can't gank as effectively and you lose your matchup. (This is also pretty dependent on your matchup as well and how well you played)

I just wanna say thank you to all of the junglers that have dealt with some of us, and especially to those who gank, is lighthearted and doesn't go crazy. You guys must have a pretty tilting role since people tend to blame you for everything. Appreciation.

Now onto Support! I main Support, so some people might argue that I'm biased, but oh well.

  • Not being able to save you while you're being killed Check in chat for Low mana pings or danger pings and mia pings. Are Summoner Spells intact? Did you misposition? Did you rush in not knowing where I was, where their jungler is, and not knowing that I'm not in range? Was I warding? Just because you wanted to go aggressive and sure you could kill them, doesn't mean your support has to follow up on everything that you do.

Sometimes, you fuck up too. And as supports, we can see that, obviously. And we won't yell at you for doing this, doing that, not being better (Of course there is the toxic support exception). There are simply too many factors in a game that affects the outcome. Maybe your support just didn't have enough experience in the game? That's not their fault. There are too many examples I can list, but it would take me a day to write out everything.

Please give me your thoughts, and try to post constructive criticism, and if you want me to add anything, say so and if deemed appropriate I will.

[sg-kiko]

8 Comments

hrooza dota 2/19/2019, 8:14:15 AM5 votes

DON'T BLAME YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR JUNGLER FOR LOSING THE GAME. Unless:

  • They're feeding on purpose.
  • They're being toxic.
  • They unfulfilling for their role and don't know what to do in obvious situations.
  • They actually fuck up.

that should be said for every role [slayer-jinx-unamused]

HavokDash2/19/2019, 7:18:18 AM4 votes

Another thing that irritates me (as a support main) is when ADC runs after an enemy and completely ignores me pinging and running behind them. They get killed and then turn around "OMG WTF where was my support, so Fking useless" You know where your support was? BACK WHERE YOU LEFT THEM. As a support: I CANT HEAL YOU IF YOU ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM ME Dont run away from me and leave me in the dust, then blame me when you die because rather than head -towards- me, you run away and force me to chase you across the entire map, praying that I get in range close enough to hopefully be able to heal you.

Kei1432/19/2019, 2:15:00 PM2 votes
  1. Yi alphas on marksmen
  2. Lay a silence zone under marksmen as Soraka
  3. Marksmen walks out of silence zone
  4. Marksmen dies to Yi
  5. Marksmen screams asdfsjfkvoeodbsjqomgwtfbbq you useless support
  6. Stay still silly marksmen, you can take 2 hits from Yi and won't die
  7. No I can't even take 1 hit from him omgwtfbbqusucksupport I need to run away from him
  8. Run to me you silly marksmen, not away. At least I can exhaust and guardian you.
  9. Difjennwkxllqlnxjfienxuselesssupport

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

I'm glad I have calmness when I play bot lane.

Scottsc202/19/2019, 10:32:47 PM1 votes

As a jungler in gold elo, this happens to me so much. I currently main Jax, who, as we all know, is a little slow early game. Basically, if any of my lanes get ganked pre-6 and I can't respond, I immediately get spam pinged for help when I am on the other side of the map. A note to all laners: I get that you are frustrated because you are being camped. I get it. I used to main top lane. But all you have to do is watch any jungle guide and they will tell you the same thing. Don't gank losing lanes unless it is perfectly set up, as in the enemy laner(s) is low on HP and you see the enemy jungler on the other side of the map. Honestly, my winrate when people get camped and actually know how to play from behind is probably around 95%. If you are getting camped, instead of screaming at your jungler for help, ward the jungle entrances and farm under tower. There are some times when I walk into my jungle and get jumped on by 3 people. No MIA pings, no rotating, nothing. But I don't yell at my laner for not helping me, I suck it up, respawn, and try to play from behind.

Zexon92/20/2019, 12:01:19 AM1 votes

I never flame support, but junglers? They are whole other story. Ok I died to enemy gank my fault, but if I dodge 3 ganks from enemy jungler or kill them when they gank me (I play renekton so it happens alot), and they don´t do anything with the lead that I´m giving them, what am I supposed to say "GJ on doing nothing, keep up the work", I don´t usually flame (hence why i never got any penalty in more than 5 years of playing), but when I get these baboons game after game after game, for 3 and half years of playing top lane, it´s more than frustrating. And i don´t even flame them for not ganking me, I flame them for not doing anything on the other half of the map, while I´m getting perma ganked by enemy, and all that while having less/same cs as enemy jungler... Argh, I´m getting tilted just by thinking about it, not to mention when you tell them anything, they automatically understand that as "Ughh hes mad at me because I didn´t gank him".