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Riot Balancing is Hilarious

Steel Blossom·7/16/2018, 11:17:45 PM·2 votes·1,025 views

Riot: So assassins are having trouble dispatching the back line after their class reworks? Riot: So, let's just buff their damage through the ceiling! This way, they can just ignore their unreliable/telegraphed spells and oneshot people just like they used to! Riot: So, assassins are too strong now? Well, let's gut their damage this time, so that they have to rely on their dogshit delayed skillshots again. This way they won't be OP anymore! Riot: So, assassins are garbage again? But we gave them the perfect balancing! How could this be!? _Meanwhile, all the most direct and popular counterplays to assassins are still instant, point-and-click, with no way for assassins to counter them in return whatsoever, other than to have enough damage to punch through them. Which, side note, is actually stat-check and completely uninteractive, exactly the way the community "likes" it. _

Riot: HOOOOOW COOOOULD THIS BEEEEEEEE?

Edit:_ Dejected, Riot buff assassin damages once more by reintroducing old LW and handing out compensation buffs left and right for Duskblade nerf. And now, they sit in the fetal position and suck their thumbs as their board floods with rage post, and Talon reaches s3 Kassadin ban rate._

On a more serious note, I know assassins are strong now. I'm just trying to say that things will never get better. Assassins as a class will either worthless or pick/ban OP.

9 Comments

The Bad Touch7/16/2018, 11:33:38 PM2 votes

Sorry but assassin players aren't allowed to make QQ threads.

Those are reserved for tanks and ADC's.

DuskDaUmbreon7/16/2018, 11:40:29 PM2 votes

All Riot needs to do is add the damage to the skillshot. All damage should be reliant on the skillshot(s). And the skillshots needs to be real skillshots, not the size of Morgana's Q and the speed of a Predator Quinn that just used Youmuu's, nor should they be able to easily be used at point-blank. Zed's Q and W+Q would be fine, if it weren't for his goddamned ult putting him right next to his target. Zed would be perfectly healthy if it weren't for Duskblade and the fact that there's no real way to miss Q and E after you ult other than by being completely idiotic.

Actually, that kinda needs to go for everyone: The more reliable something is, it needs to be either more delayed and delayed in a way people can actually do something about, or be lower damage. The less reliable it is, the more damage it should do. Cooldown is not an appropriate substitute for an ability being reliable and high damage.

Look at Ahri: Her W and R are her only targeted damage. Her Q and E are skillshots, and contain most of her damage. Her W can do a significant amount of damage, but it usually does fairly little unless you land E. Her R is a point and click dash, but it's short-range enough (per cast, at least) that it doesn't completely invalidate the skill behind her E and Q. That is what an assassin should be like. Mobile, able to kill in the space of a second, and skill-reliant. If you don't land your E, your kill potential against people goes significantly further down, enough that you usually can't kill a full-health target unless you're incredibly fed.

Another fairly good example is Evelynn: Most of your killing power early-on is locked behind your W, which gives your opponents time to react, and it's reasonably dodgable, even though you're in stealth, because you can't reach melee range while still in stealth. A bit too much of her damage is point and click, but most of it is locked behind her first Q and her W, both of which you can play against.

Since Evelynn is fine (when her numbers just aren't too high), we also see it's not stealth that's making them broken. Since Ahri is fine, we see it's not hyper mobility that's making them broken, nor is it targeted dashes. Both also show Electrocute isn't the issue.

The problem is a combination of Duskblade and you just not being able to do much against them if they decide to target you. It's basically just relying on your team to save your ass, which means ADCs just don't get to live if it isn't for a Janna/Lulu/whateverthefuck saving them.