Back at the re-work we begged Riot to buff her after adc re-work, after so many agreed unsatisfaction with Quinn state they buffed her, however, now they nerfed everything they buffed and alittle more, now she's trash, theres so little champions left I'm playing because of riot nerfs, 15 of my main champs are nerfed, so what do I play now?
ModWulf Helhammer8 votesBecause she's not? Just because a champion got nerfs, it doesn't mean they're worthless. Quinn's nerfs were relatively minor, and didn't really change much for her
Muted Summoner2 votesBecause she's not? Just because a champion got nerfs, it doesn't mean they're worthless. Quinn's nerfs were relatively minor, and didn't really change much for her
It pretty much made her fall out of competitive play in which she wasn't even that much of a really good tier pick, she was just good early against Fiorra/Graves/etc. Not only did she get nerfed, the champions she was somewhat viable against don't see play any more because they got nerfed too. She was a counter pick champion that lost that functionality in viability.
Shes trash but that doesn't mean her or any other champion can't work but why play her/etc when there are better and more viable picks. As for the ADC role shes even worse. She was a failed ADC who found her way top with the change only for the champions she went against to go away + the nerf. Shes Trash.
She was fucked over like most other Top laners when they nerfed so many top laners and buffed Maokai and kept the tree bastard there with Ekko so long that he is getting a Victorious skin.
ModWulf Helhammer5 votesCompetitive play =/= viable
She has the second highest winrate in top right now, had the highest last patch.
And for ADC, while it isn't her strong role, if enough time is put into it, she can carry just as hard as any other ADC (Quinn ADC main since mid-season 4)
Muted Summoner2 votesCompetitive play =/= viable
She has the second highest winrate in top right now, had the highest last patch.
And for ADC, while it isn't her strong role, if enough time is put into it, she can carry just as hard as any other ADC (Quinn ADC main since mid-season 4)
Post more statistics next time. Her Play rate is extremely low. Most of those who play her are mains. You don't base statistics on mains mostly due to a low play rate. Its about as bad as the Rammus win rate with the extremely low pick rate at one time. Her play rate even tanks even further as you go up the ladder from Silver 5. Competitive play determines Viability on a broad scale. Its the reason why most people stay in the meta. As I said earlier though. It doesn't mean she can't work or any other champion. The whole point being is there are better picks and picking her when you can pick better champs makes no sense if you intend to climb the elo ladder. Of course you can get by in Bronze Silver and gold with champs like Quin and possibly even plat. It isn't till Diamond and above the shit really counts and even below that she may have a decent win rate but her play rate isn't great either.
Its not Competitive play =/= viable its more Competitive play =/= Solo Q Solo Q allows unconventional picks to be much more possible due to no coordination and less team work. Minus the few times some champions straight out suck in Solo Q or are to hard to play and normally sit at Pro play exclusivity. Competitive play sets the meta which highly determines whats viable or not most of the time.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesAnd you're point is what then exactly? Quinn has pretty much always had an extremely low playrate, and that wasn't changed by the update. Take a look at the Quinn mains subreddit or our discord, and you'll find plenty of people that have continuous success on Quinn at a wide range of elos.
Muted Summoner1 votesAnd you're point is what then exactly? Quinn has pretty much always had an extremely low playrate, and that wasn't changed by the update. Take a look at the Quinn mains subreddit or our discord, and you'll find plenty of people that have continuous success on Quinn at a wide range of elos.
What? She was played a lot with her rework and when she was seeing competitive play. She saw less play after the changes (Nerfs to the top lane meta) when compared to other top laners there is better ones. When compared to other adcs there are better adcs so she isn't picked as much.
Quin has always had a low play rate for a lot of reasons. Un-finished textures. She was rushed out and left alone for a long time. She was an adc who had to get in melee distance to use ultimate. The changes made her so much better but the issue is there is just better champs. Because of that reason alone she sees less play. She isn't that much different than most adcs except she isn't as good due to her low range without any protection or wave clear in her kit as opposed to Sivir. When compared to other top laners and adcs she is trash. The only thing she brings that is unique is her fast roams.
Muted Summoner1 votesAnd you're point is what then exactly? Quinn has pretty much always had an extremely low playrate, and that wasn't changed by the update. Take a look at the Quinn mains subreddit or our discord, and you'll find plenty of people that have continuous success on Quinn at a wide range of elos.
Im sorry but I can find plenty of Mordekaisers mains too. I can find plenty of Skarner mains too. Hell I used to be a Skarner main who had high success on him til the reworked him for the 4th time. That doesn't mean anything when compared to other more popular and stronger champs. I never said Quin can't work. I just said if you play Quin chances are you will do better with other champs because they are better. We all know if everyone started to play Quin because "she has a high win rate so she must be good" She would tank that win rate so god damn hard it wouldn't even be funny and everyone would go god damn she sucks I thought she would carry. She needs buffs for her poor laning phase so she can be a better adc but possibly needs nerfs on her assassin potential if that happens.
Valor Bot3 votes[{quoted}](name=Mute Scarecrow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bJ4xkteR,comment-id=000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-10-03T15:38:15.945+0000)She needs buffs for her poor laning phase so she can be a better adc but possibly needs nerfs on her assassin potential if that happens.
But that's what Quinn is. A marksman/assassin hybrid who struggles in duo lanes due to the short-ranged, 1v1-focused nature of her kit. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just what makes the Champion unique. I'm not sure I understand why you think she needs to be forced into the bot lane carry/traditional "marksman" role.
Muted Summoner1 votes[{quoted}](name=Valor Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bJ4xkteR,comment-id=0001000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-10-03T18:34:42.296+0000)
I'm not sure I understand why you think she needs to be forced into the bot lane carry/traditional "marksman" role.
She became more of a Marksmen/assassin after the update. She was always a Marksmen/Fighter beforehand being better top than adc due to Melee form. The issue with her then was her poor damage despite the lack of her range thanks to her Blind. You could argue anyone could be an assassin though if fed. They straight up removed the melee aspect which in turned should have made her more of a marksmen as that was one of the biggest problems with Quin adc going melee and it did make her a better adc. I'm not sure I understand why you think I need her to be forced into the bot lane carry/traditional "marksman" role. Cause I don't, she just needs to be better so she can fit that role better to see more play or fix the problems she has in top lane so she can see more play, because Quin has problems right now. But you know what, It took Riot years to address Quin's bugs from her being Rushed and her Melee form being complete shit. Chances are shes gonna stay that way for a long time.
I have nothing wrong with Quin being top-mid or bot just, the same with how Vayne and Lucian was seeing some play in the top lane once before. Never have I once said she needs to be forced bot lane. Quin used to play like Gnar in a sense at lv 6 minus the really great cc and Health stats. Im just saying she needs to be better because right now her Pick rate shows how "good" she really is. She isn't played that much because there are better champions top-mid and bot.
But if you guys think shes fine and doesn't need any buffs or changes, hey thats fine cause I really don't give a shit. I just wish I could refund her champion release skin bundle for how shit it was with the huge amounts of visual bugs she had. http://puu.sh/rx0jF/72e078d2b8.png Im just giving my opinion. Whether you want to take it as a fact or not, or seriously, is up to you. I really wanted to like the champion but after nearly 3 years of salt they can just delete her for all I care.
Lovelle1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mute Scarecrow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bJ4xkteR,comment-id=00010000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-04T02:50:05.136+0000)
She became more of a Marksmen/assassin after the update. She was always a Marksmen/Fighter beforehand being better top than adc due to Melee form. The issue with her then was her poor damage despite the lack of her range thanks to her Blind. You could argue anyone could be an assassin though if fed. They straight up removed the melee aspect which in turned should have made her more of a marksmen as that was one of the biggest problems with Quin adc going melee and it did make her a better adc. I'm not sure I understand why you think I need her to be forced into the bot lane carry/traditional "marksman" role. Cause I don't, she just needs to be better so she can fit that role better to see more play or fix the problems she has in top lane so she can see more play, because Quin has problems right now. But you know what, It took Riot years to address Quin's bugs from her being Rushed and her Melee form being complete shit. Chances are shes gonna stay that way for a long time.
I have nothing wrong with Quin being top-mid or bot just, the same with how Vayne and Lucian was seeing some play in the top lane once before. Never have I once said she needs to be forced bot lane. Quin used to play like Gnar in a sense at lv 6 minus the really great cc and Health stats. Im just saying she needs to be better because right now her Pick rate shows how "good" she really is. She isn't played that much because there are better champions top-mid and bot.
But if you guys think shes fine and doesn't need any buffs or changes, hey thats fine cause I really don't give a shit. I just wish I could refund her champion release skin bundle for how shit it was with the huge amounts of visual bugs she had. http://puu.sh/rx0jF/72e078d2b8.png Im just giving my opinion. Whether you want to take it as a fact or not, or seriously, is up to you. I really wanted to like the champion but after nearly 3 years of salt they can just delete her for all I care.
She was arguably more of an assassin before the rework. Late game Quinn could instagib squishies with her ult, but had no way out once she did it. Her burst was insane, kind of like a poor man's Zed. She has more reliable, sustained damage post-rework and offers more windows for counterplay. She's more marksman than assassin now, but the assassin aspect of her kit is definitely still there.
Muted Summoner2 votesThey buffed other champions so hard she feel out of viability.
I think they may have nerfed her too.
Lovelle1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mute Scarecrow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bJ4xkteR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-03T03:39:50.417+0000)
They buffed other champions so hard she feel out of viability.
I think they may have nerfed her too.
They nerfed her bases and gave her higher cooldowns. Good ol' Riot double-whammy that's given to unpopular champs. She still works, by nature of her kit, but nearly every other marksman is easier to win with.
Leo10242 votesShe relies super heavy on her early game, if she gets decently fed she's a monster, yeah she's not great if she only had 1 or 2 kills at 20 Minutes but if played right she can carry a game so hard
Phoenix Kotori 2 votesI main her and play her majority of my matches I think she's fine. She's not an S tier champion, but she's relatively balanced, imo.
Akali is SO HOT2 votesShe's been one of the highest winrate top laners all season
MF is my Waifu2 votes? Quinn is a high-tier waifu right now. Watch yourself.
SwiftKitten881 votesyou land your blind.. you can 1v1 anyone...
unlike 
blind which makes auto attacks miss 
blind does the same thing as 
ulti.
and as an adc... unless your goign absolute pure tank.. she is going to melt you either before the blind wears off. or your going to have like 1/3 hp after the blind ears off, at which point.. you cant fight her, you cant escape and your dead anyways.
The Whamboozler1 votesShe's a half-decent top laner and decent in 3v3's. Not every champ needs to be viable everywhere at every time. I think she's fine.
