Her current state is bad, and downvote because you still think she's OP but she's not, she got A LOT of nerfs, I don't like kindred release, kindred release is like pre-nerf yasuo, but they over-nerfed her and she's so hard to jg with and very risky, it's a kind of thing that makes the game suck because if she's behind she sucks the whole game but if she get's lucky and gets fed she gona do well
She needs buffs or have her power looked at (early-late game)
afk soon btw5 voteshttp://image.prntscr.com/image/66e409fdae1a4a1b98924753d0ddd4bc.png
Holy shit Kindred sucks. Like wtf, Gragas, Reksai and Nidalee Nerfs didnt make her shine again at all. How ? I just dont understand.
But srs now. Kindred is on a good Spot right now and finding back to old Strenghts. Its not about " how weak is somebody " its about " how strong is she compared to Champion X ". And she is a great Counter to Zac.
Favor right now: Kindred.
TheSaltyScourge3 votesburn in hell kindred
DunkinNoobs3 votesIf champion.gg is to be believed, Kindred is currently stronger than Yasuo when both are played by their best players. I can hear a bunch of silver players heads exploding in rage just because I said that.
Dracocrash1 votesTo be fair, Kindred sucks in low elo, as compared to high elo.
GULAG 4 U1 votesBut Yasuo when played well has no counterplay... So why is Aurelion sol at the same playrate has 65 while Yasuo has 56? Ehhh? Prove me wrong?
DunkinNoobs1 votesBut Yasuo when played well has no counterplay... So why is Aurelion sol at the same playrate has 65 while Yasuo has 56? Ehhh? Prove me wrong?
Apdo himself says that every Aur Sol main is a boosted animal that only got to where they are by playing a completely broken champion.
GULAG 4 U1 votesEven if he's no 1 Korean soloq player I wouldn't trust every single thing he said.
DunkinNoobs1 votesIndeed you shouldn't. You're smarter than most.
GULAG 4 U1 votesIn fact he doesn't even say why is Aurelion sol a xwx on steroids, he just.... Says it....
BLACK REALM GOD3 votesthe only thing wrong with kindred is her hunt/marks system. trying to take herald or baron when no one is ready to commit is a nightmare. in fact having those two be hunts is just dumb and can ultimately ruin the game for her. drake is fine because 70% of all jungling champs can take a drake solo - kindred included. there's nothing worse than having to sit on your 3rd stack of hunts because wolf wanted a taste of the void. i guess you could camp it until the enemies try to take it but what good does that do you if the enemies never try to take it?
other than that i have a few complaints that are personal preferences.
1 being her R's repositioning underneath lamb's feet. i'm against it as it completely removes any utility of it. there are very limited plays you can make with her R and most require you to have a healer rescue you or someone to save you by joining into the fight with max hp while you zhonya - cant lifesteal someone who is immune to damage. she also cant save her own camps from being killed on her way to kill them herself anymore.
2 base damage should be lowered in exchange for movement speed and attack speed. her kit doesnt need more damage anymore. it's completely worthless on her to have high damage early game as a jungler 
's passive is enough of a reason to prove that point. i shouldnt have to buy mobility boots just to make it to my enemies wolf camp on time to get my hunt. at 325 her movement is awful.
ThePikol2 votestrying to take herald or baron when no one is ready to commit is a nightmare. in fact having those two be hunts is just dumb and can ultimately ruin the game for her. there's nothing worse than having to sit on your 3rd stack of hunts because wolf wanted a taste of the void.
Wolf marks them after you already have 6 stacks
1 being her R's repositioning underneath lamb's feet. i'm against it as it completely removes any utility of it.
Kindred used to can place it on others, don't know why it was removed. It fit them so well.
But you are right. Kinded is too slow. They need more attack speed too
TIME TO LOSE KID2 votesCan you people stop posting champion.gg statistics to back your arguments? Winrates on there are moreso indicative of how easy the champion is to play/how many people main said champion as opposed to how good they actually are. This is why shit like Quinn, Singed, Fiddlesticks, Wukong, Annie, Malzahar, etc. all sit at the top due to their easy playstyle and dedicated playerbases while actually broken stupid picks like Ekko and Rek'Sai chill down at 45-46% win rates because people only play them because "they're OP" and lose interest in 20 games or so due to either lack of interest or lovetap nerfs.
Kindred is fine, I just got my ass beat by some master kindred 1trick today. She was overtuned before and now she's just a little less obnoxious, but still a great pick. Don't buff/nerf based on winrates or you'll have another case of old reworked ryze on your hands where blatantly broken picks get buffs because not enough people play/know how to properly play the champion.
GULAG 4 U2 votesWinrates can be used, but don't make an entire argument that's solely based on win rate.
Dracocrash2 votesGodam, I see a buff kindred thread every fken day.
They are not a weak champion, just because they aren't "top tier" doesn't mean they need buffs. Kindred is in a decent spot right now.
Shuten Ðoji2 votesI think Kindred is more or less fine atm. I just kind of wish some early game marks were a little more reliable, it's really unfun when the entire enemy team makes it their life goal to make sure you get no marks and have to resort to just being an ult-bot. :v
Blumpkin Nation2 votesHer heal thing was unique. I wish they'd bring that back. It allowed her to stay in lane and accumulate more exp/gold than the other ADC. Which isn't bad, considering she's not going to deal crazy damage early game.
All they have to do is make it so her heal only procs against minions until level 9 or something so her jungling isn't over bearing.
edit; by heal thing, I mean it was attached to her W and not her ult. It was basically a heal proc like Luden's.
Unstoppable Monk2 votesUnpopular opinion here: 
jungle and top lane are fine. The perception of Kindred however leads some players that are generally less cooperative or coordinated to helping Kindred win, to lose on purpose or be negligent in objectives.
You need teamwork for Kindred to make her work, but if people cry troll/weak... 
Basically Kindred is now an Urgot-type champion that is a little team dependent. She probably could be a little more fleet of foot with a small amount of MS buff on her E.
Lady Hammerlock1 votesI just have one thing to say Look at Korea enough said
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesmore like : "hell i can't just run into the enemy jungle with 100% hp after a full clear and they are halfway their clear with half hp and i can't get first blood anymore jesus riot. my freelo is gone".
Dracocrash9 votes
:^)
Maximum Morde1 votesWhat did you expect, she's a furry.
PapaGreg211 votesI stopped playing Kindred for the same reason I stopped playing Reksai. Even though they are both a lot of fun, LCS is going to make them low tier for a silver player like myself because they get abused in pro play. I pray my mains never get played in high ELO.
Chimp Joker1 votesDeslpite taking away Kindred's healing from her w, I still think that she is a strong jungle champion if played right. After seeing a kindred teammate immediately shred afully fed enemy nasus's health so fast and effectively, she should still be feared.
Calabok1 votesshe's good. real good. like apple pie.
Darkslayer851 votesKindred mastery seven here. They do not need buffs.
There just needs to be incentive for allies to help with marks.
Troy2426211 votesTo be fair, Kindred is an irritating design.
