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STILL NO KEY FRAGMENTS!!!! ITS BEEN WEEKS!!!

Arkhan··213 votes·72,444 views

First off, this is not at all a bash towards Riot. I love you guys. Second off, The boards are filled with other people wanting the same question answered! Thirdly, the issue. This is now my second post about this. I am not receiving key fragments anymore. Is there a reason why? All my friends are receiving them and opening chests for days, and I'm just sitting over here like Surprise Party Amumu with a cake on my head. (and no key fragments.) I play a lot of League, so either I have the worst luck ever, or I am not destined to open the Hextech Chests of old. (errrr.... new. (What have you.))

HEY! UPDATE!!!

I just thought about how much would be given away if you were to receive keys or fragments more often.

And a summoner pointed me in the right direction with a link that I did not know existed.

Check it out here for everything you need to know. Thanks guys.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207884233-Hextech-Crafting-Guide

ALSO! I have learned that it is COMPLETELY appropriate for the curve to exist, and for the keys and fragments to be given sparingly. If you were to get a key or fragment more often, you would own all skins before you know it. (if you play a lot.) And/or you would have everything you wanted from League. One, that isn't fun at all. And two, Riot wouldn't make any money.

The way it is now is fine, I just saw it as something I could use more often in the game. It's more like a gift every now and then.

233 Comments

Smitty Manjensen29 votes

You're supposed to buy them now, they give you a couple of them as a taste, just like drug dealers do, so then you keep coming back for more.

UB3R 1337 H4X6 votes

Gee golly you sure got me hooked on all this free Sanguine Garen

/s

Arkhan3 votes

SANGUINE GAREN IS FREE!? SINCE WHEN!?

I'm here all night.... [slayer-jinx-wink]

Critmaster Garen12 votes

{quoted} If you were to get a key or fragment more often, you would own all skins before you know it. (if you play a lot.) And/or you would have everything you wanted from League.

do you have any idea how many skins, ward skins, and summoner icons there are in this game?

  • free chests are limited to 40 a season. about half of them will contain champion shards, the other half cosmetic content (not necessarily champion skins)
  • youll have to disenchant at least 1/2 of the cosmetic content you can find in these chests so you have the essence to unlock the skins you get
  • there are 130 champions in the game with most champions having more than 1 skin. a few of them even more than 5 skins.
  • the content you get is completely randomized

even if you play a lot, and get 40 chests and unlock them youll only ever be able to unlock about 5 random skins per season. i mean this is cool, but this is assuming you actually open all the chests.

the chance that you get even 1 skin for a champion you play from free chests is incredibly small.

whats the point of giving away chests, when you can only maybe open half of them per season due to lack of keys?

the answer is while theyre sitting there in your inventory, theyre baiting you to buy rp for the keys to open them.

PDE5 Inhib3 votes

1 free skin is worth it.

It's literally free. Why are people complaining that they don't get ENOUGH free things?

AMYS GRAVE5 votes

We are disappointed that riot would release such a blatant paid skinner box mechanism in their game.

PDE5 Inhib3 votes

Funny, I've received multiple items from Hextech and haven't spent a dime on League.

Seems to me you're just not happy with the amount of free stuff you're getting.

AMYS GRAVE6 votes

You're projecting others complaints on to me. I couldn't care less if this wasn't even a system in the game. Its their predatory practices that i find deplorable.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

There is no predatory practice. There is them giving you FREE STUFF. Free. Requires 0 purchases to obtain. If somebody doesn't like the rate at which they receive free stuff, then they can purchase it. Simple.

AMYS GRAVE6 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWtvrPTbQ_c

They are using operant conditioning to reinforce use of chest/keys more often than they are given out for free. Operant conditioning works on humans, and riot is using this method to incentivize purchases. I do not partake in the hextech crafting system, i am opposed to it because of this manipulation.

Watch the youtube video, at least the first few minutes because that basic psychology is necessary to have a discussion about the hextech crafting system.

ModMod Curator10 votes

You'll find the answer on the Support site in the Hextech Crafting Guide.

FEELS LIKE I'M NOT GETTING MANY KEY FRAGMENTS ANYMORE. WHAT GIVES?

The drop rate for key fragments is a curve, not a line. With each fragment you earn, the chance to earn your next one goes down slightly. This number resets roughly every thirty days after you earn your first key fragment.

We wanted to give players who didn't play as frequently a good drop rate for keys, without making it feel like farming was mandatory if you wanted keys.

Slythion11 votes

My last key fragment was about 20 wins ago :/

ModMod Curator3 votes

{quoted}

My last key fragment was about 20 wins ago :/

As it states, it's not based on wins, it's based on time.

Slythion5 votes

I know, but I've only opened like 3 chests so you'd think my drop rate would be higher

Kway2 votes

You should expect to open 4~3 chests per month

EnvyDragon5 votes

How long has Hextech Crafting been available? Because I've only gotten enough key fragments to open two chests, and I've had an average of 1-2 wins per day since it was released.

Nekusen47 votes

{quoted}

You'll find the answer on the Support site in the Hextech Crafting Guide.

still, playing several games a day, for weeks, and 0 keys since then. and im not saying "im getting very few keys", im saying "literally 0 fragments in weeks"

Simple Moon11 votes

Same. It's been over the 30 day reset as well.

OyddAWqJ5r3 votes

Exactly, we were all patient for the 30 day reset but... where is it?

Zedex5 votes

Reads the FAQ, still confused.

Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a sheep in its natural habitat. Give it something else popular and step by step and maybe it'll leave.

While I'm being a monumental douche bag, fragment drops are obviously random and they clearly get more rare as you start getting them a lot. But of course, you'd have to use common sense to figure that out, and we wouldn't want that, now would we?

KaisadiIIa44 votes

I'm being a monumental douche bag

This is literally the only sentence from your post that I agree with.

Rísen10 votes

Logged in to upvote.

DumplingLife1 votes

i have 12 chests havent got a single key frag past 6 months so yikes...

and i mean 0, not very few, i cant even recall wut the chest-open-animation looks like nor can i recall the last time ive opened one

Prozzak6 votes

The problem with this is that the whole "good drop rate" part exists for about 5 wins then it goes to utter garbage. I have got about 3 keys in the last 2-3 weeks now.

Just looked up the release date, looks like it was around 26 days ago. Lets see the droprates hopefully improve enough for one key before its crap again.

To be fair, this is all free stuff and I am happy with anything, but 1 key per 15 wins is just such a let down. Wish it was more evenly spread out over a month.

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

1 key per 15 wins is still 1 more key used for free stuff than you had before hextech.

Prozzak4 votes

Yes, and I know that, doesn't change it from being a let down when you get one key per week. At the rate this is currently going I will open maybe 12 chests this year compared to the 60 I can get. That is a lot of extra chests just sitting there.

The Bíg Ticket9 votes

I like complaining about free stuff too.

EnvyDragon23 votes

It's not about free stuff, it's about an utter lack of transparency in mechanics. How are we supposed to know when the drop rate resets? How are we supposed to know that we have gotten "enough keys" for the month?

Getting free stuff from Hextech Crafting is a cool thing Riot decided on, but holy shit, the way it works makes no sense and is immensely frustrating. When you think you might get something and then you don't, it feels worse than when you know you won't get anything.

The Bíg Ticket5 votes

Yeah its terrible that you can get champs and skins for free now. Really frustrating.

How about you calm your expectations and just be happy when you a key fragment? Thats what I do.

WadeWilson13376 votes

When youre already gated to 4 chests a month, the key fragments should not be something to be gated by as well. When people who play this game multiple games daily, sometimes winning 3+ games a day on average cant even open all their chests, the system is obviously pointed towards baiting you into purchasing the rest of the keys.

The Bíg Ticket5 votes

Then just be patient and don't buy them? Lmao.

WadeWilson13375 votes

The fact its designed in that manner is annoying. Riot already makes multi billions off of microtransactions..do they really need to add another RNG fest so simpletons and small children can burn their mom's wallets for some hilariously dissapointing loot?

Pacho the Taco1 votes

I think you may be off by a few zeros...

WadeWilson13373 votes

Riot financial earnings for year of 2015: $1.6 billion.

MVDuneCats8 votes

In addition to the revelation that key fragment drop rates go down with each drop and reset every month, one Rioter posted that you can get a fixed number of key fragments during each month and that that number is tuned to match the number of chests you can get. While what that number was for key fragments wasn't posted, if we went by 1-chest-per-week, we can conclude that the limit is 13 key fragments per month (13 fragments * 12 months / 3 = 52 keys).

But if the number of keys you can get just keeps pace with the chests that can drop on a weekly basis, you would still be behind on the first 4 chests that became available to drop immediately when hextech crafting went live.

I suspect that players are always going to find themselves 4 keys behind if they faithfully take advantage of chest drops, and that players will have to purchase those 4 extra keys using RP.

StealthWarden7 votes

Honestly, hextech chests makes league of legends for the first time since its inception

and someone is going to yell at me i know....

Free To Play

There is now nothing in this game that you can not get through playing and having fun...it may take a long time, but why get everything right away and have nothing to look forward to at all? And as luck would have it, Riot will allow you to spend as much money as you want to spoil your game and buy all the champs and skins you want.

Riot, you screw up 80% of what you do. The ranked system is absolute garbage, dynamic Q is a complete fail, balance is a fairy tale...but this you got right.

Well done.

now go fix your game plox*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

biggnig695 votes

If I spend a day dedicated to playing league to earn key fragments, I should earn at least 1 key fragment by the end of the day.

OddFuture971 votes

If you spend a day dedicated to playing league to earn key fragments you should probably reevaluate your priorities and do something less pathetic instead

biggnig695 votes

I mean we've all had League binges, the only difference here is trying to earn a reward after the game. If playing league is so pathetic why are you here?

JustARivenMain4 votes

3 and 1/2 weeks since my last Key Frag, kill me now.

Miku Lv994 votes

Problem with them is that the key fragment drop rate never seems to increase. Riot said it would reset every month, but the new month started and nothing. So it probably doesn't increase until 1 month after you earned a key fragment. Which is really annoying when most of us probably have a very bad idea of when we got most of our key fragments.

Oh and you can only get 12 key fragments per month. I played enough to assure you that you won't get the 13th, or at least the chances of it are so low you might as well assume you can't get it.

Arkhan1 votes

Yeah, but its totally okay! Imagine if you got keys more often! You would earn more skins, champs, and all that way too much. Riot wouldn't make any money and also, you would eventually have everything. And thats no fun.

Crawford8817 votes

You can only get one chest every six days. It's nice, but it wouldn't break the bank for riot to make the key fragments drop often enough that people can open their chests.

shadowwolfx2 votes

for that matter there is no guarantee that you wont own the skin in the chest, nor the champion, so really its not hurting anything.

Leetri3 votes

It's every 30 days since you earn your first fragment, not every calendar month.

WadeWilson13373 votes

I play 3 games minimum a day, with 10 games a day not being uncommon (This is the only game im playing at the moment, and since i play mostly ARAM since they bugfixed the fragments, it doesnt take long to get out 10 games). I went on an absurd 18 game winstreak, and have easily pulled over 125 wins since Hextech went live; how many fragments have i gotten?

  1. 9 fragments in 125+ wins. If i had a 50% winrate, that would mean it would take me 250+ games to unlock 3 chests. The drop rate is too low.

My last fragment was probably a week and a half ago.

Arkhan1 votes

Click the link and scoll down, it tells you everything you need to know. A fellow summoner shared it with me so I thought I would pay it forward a couple times.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207884233-Hextech-Crafting-Guide

Blainezy1 votes

I haven't gotten a key fragment in a good week, and teammates and I have had plenty of S's.

HeIen KeIIer4 votes

"S" grades are just for chests. Key fragments come at random, as long as you win, and the chance is higher if you're grouped with friends.

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