and can no longer be considered a sustain support by any stretch of the imagination because now relic shield supports thresh/leona/braum etc have surpassed sonas ability to keep adc in lane through consistent healing
guguy1233 votesGEE, ALMOST AS IF WE HAVE PBE BOARDS FOR THIS KIND OF FEEDBACK
Emperor Cynric1 votesthey don't care about our feedback mana pots and wards are gone already and 99% of these changes will be in pre season.
RedCyclone2 votesCan't really say much more of what I havn't said already
I never buy mana potions as Sona support and I dont even take utility points
I don't feel much mana burden currently and can keep up harassment easily until a comfy time to recall and do it all over again It's literally down to not casting W much, it's a shitty sustain tool at rank 1 anyway and it's only purpose is to use during a trade
A Wild AP Sona1 votesCan't really say much more of what I havn't said already
I never buy mana potions as Sona support and I dont even take utility points
I don't feel much mana burden currently and can keep up harassment easily until a comfy time to recall and do it all over again It's literally down to not casting W much, it's a shitty sustain tool at rank 1 anyway and it's only purpose is to use during a trade
and I go oom when I start 2 hp 2 mana potions and I spend the rest of the game buying 2-3 mana potions until I have 3-4 items around level 12ish
im telling you that if you dont have mana issues with sona currently you arent harassing enough as her if you arent harassing enough as her then your enemies are going to have higher hp and will mow right over you if they are good players
sona has to do her damage BEFORE the fight starts not after because every other support is more useful in an all in 2v2 engage than sona
RedCyclone1 votesWell, it's just my experience, poking fequency usually depends on your matchup, you can't poke as much when you are VS Naut or Blitz, but VS say a Nami or Lulu you will probably eventually run OOM from hyper harassing, and at that point you should have given the enemy a real workout
Abyssphere1 votesI don't believe you.
She gets 2.5 more mp5 from her base stats now and Spellthief's is giving her roughly 3 mp5 rather than the roughly 2 mp5 it did before pre-season. She gets about 7 more mana every 10 seconds than she did before, which translates to 42 more mana per minute. That's really rather good and means that after 2 minutes and 30 seconds of being in lane you've basically out-regened the mana pot you would have had, plus you get an extra health pot in its place.
Combine that with the buffed (and now worth actually purchasing rather early) Frostfang giving double the mana it once did and Frost Queen's Claim giving triple the mana it used to, your regen also scales exceedingly well into the latter parts of the game now.
Her mana will be fine. I realise Sona has her problems and should be looked at but mana is not and will not be the issue once the pre-season goes live. If anything I think season 6 is much kinder to Sona's mana issues than season 5 was, although that mostly speaks to just how horrendous mana regen was for mage supports this season.
A Wild AP Sona1 votesI don't believe you.
She gets 2.5 more mp5 from her base stats now and Spellthief's is giving her roughly 3 mp5 rather than the roughly 2 mp5 it did before pre-season. She gets about 7 more mana every 10 seconds than she did before, which translates to 42 more mana per minute. That's really rather good and means that after 2 minutes and 30 seconds of being in lane you've basically out-regened the mana pot you would have had, plus you get an extra health pot in its place.
Combine that with the buffed (and now worth actually purchasing rather early) Frostfang giving double the mana it once did and Frost Queen's Claim giving triple the mana it used to, your regen also scales exceedingly well into the latter parts of the game now.
Her mana will be fine. I realise Sona has her problems and should be looked at but mana is not and will not be the issue once the pre-season goes live. If anything I think season 6 is much kinder to Sona's mana issues than season 5 was, although that mostly speaks to just how horrendous mana regen was for mage supports this season.
then remove heal from sonas kit
I refuse to accept the responsibility to being considered a sustain support by the community when a fucking support teemo with a relic shield can and will out heal me and if I use w once we automatically lose lane because I used 1 ability in my kit once or twice
Miraweave1 votesthen remove heal from sonas kit
I refuse to accept the responsibility to being considered a sustain support by the community when a fucking support teemo with a relic shield can and will out heal me and if I use w once we automatically lose lane because I used 1 ability in my kit once or twice
Is anyone honestly stupid enough to call her a sustain support?
Lategame, her sustain is massive. Early, it's weak. She's a poke/burst support. Her damage is fucking unbelievable even without items.
A Wild AP Sona1 votesIs anyone honestly stupid enough to call her a sustain support?
Lategame, her sustain is massive. Early, it's weak. She's a poke/burst support. Her damage is fucking unbelievable even without items.
her damage is 1/3rd sorakas and 1/2 namis literally
A Wild AP Sona1 votesLol you what?
a level 2 sona does 88 damage of d3ad1y bur$t not counting her aa damage so you can call it 110-115 now go and look at what a nami/soraka can do if they land both of their damage abilities at level 2 and throw in an aa
Emperor Cynric1 votessona's just pathetically weak in general. You pretty much have to build full AP for her abilities to have any sort of impact in the game, but she's a support soooo full AP is out of the question. Her abilities can use some buffs in numbers and not to mention they cost a lot to use.