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Nahui6 votes

Hey look, a single Yorick game. Reverse the rework boys, this one game is indicative of the champion. Show this graph to the pros, they're missing out on this free world's win. This is Yorick every single game ever played, Riot is dumb if they rework this broken, amazingly powerful champion!

resumed1 votes

not to mention that it's a bug that happens with yorick's ult when he ults himself, dies, and the 10 seconds run out

when that happens 100k true damage is dealt by yorick to himself

so most of that is like, 90% fake damage dealt/taken

this is probably what the graph would look like if the bug didn't happen http://image.prntscr.com/image/3231aab08f5842f2beb8d0de6b67af33.png

Wind Whistler1 votes

Actually, that's not the bug. They got rid of that as far as I know. http://prntscr.com/ca4phx THIS is the bug.

resumed1 votes

the bug was not fixed

it may not be as easily replicateable or there may be some factors to it which made it occur more frequently which no longer apply

but it was not fixed

it would probably be mentioned in at least one of the patch notes

Wind Whistler1 votes

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the bug was not fixed

it may not be as easily replicateable or there may be some factors to it which made it occur more frequently which no longer apply

but it was not fixed

it would probably be mentioned in at least one of the patch notes

Hmmm... I guess you're right. Doing THAT much damage isn't too likely, to be honest. Still though, he's very tanky, and DOES indeed do a lot of damage. Maybe just not that much.

Also, they didn't say anything when they changed the way Renekton's W works, so I don't know. It could have been fixed and they didn't say anything. Besides, when's the last time you saw ANYTHING related to Yorick in the patch notes?

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Hey look, a single Yorick game. Reverse the rework boys, this one game is indicative of the champion. Show this graph to the pros, they're missing out on this free world's win. This is Yorick every single game ever played, Riot is dumb if they rework this broken, amazingly powerful champion!

Look at my match history. It's actually EVERY game I play as Yorick. Besides, I'm sure he works way different in competitive play. Look at Rek'Sai in regular play, and then in competitive play. There's a huge difference. Take your sarcasm elsewhere.

Also, even if it was a really, really good game, the fact that I did THAT much fucking damage while I was fed is almost solid evidence that Yorick ISN'T completely garbage. If a champion does that much while they're fed, they're at least SOMEWHAT viable. Stop hating on a champion you know almost nothing about.

Nahui1 votes

Any champion will excel while fed. That's how league works. But overall as a champion, Yorick poorly performs. Just because he's lane dominant doesn't mean he's a good champion.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Any champion will excel while fed. That's how league works. But overall as a champion, Yorick poorly performs. Just because he's lane dominant doesn't mean he's a good champion.

You don't get the point. Besides, I wasn't even fed that game. That was just my typical Yorick game, perhaps a little bit better than the rest, but still. And why are you bringing up Yorick being lane dominant? Not to mention, Yorick being a lane bully is just a blatant lie. How are you going to lane bully someone when you run out of mana in 6 spells?

The more you talk, the more apparent it is that you know nothing about Yorick.

Nahui1 votes

Yorick has no actual hard counter in lane. I'm not saying he's a lane bully, but he's lane dominant. He's got a kit designed to do well in lane. There's a difference. His sustain allows him to be lane dominant. There's even a whole meme dedicated to Yorick's laning. "Yorick walks into a bar. There was no counter."

I'm no Yorick expert, but his kit and performance is bad enough that Riot actually removed him from the free rotation.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Yorick has no actual hard counter in lane. I'm not saying he's a lane bully, but he's lane dominant. He's got a kit designed to do well in lane. There's a difference. His sustain allows him to be lane dominant. There's even a whole meme dedicated to Yorick's laning. "Yorick walks into a bar. There was no counter."

I'm no Yorick expert, but his kit and performance is bad enough that Riot actually removed him from the free rotation.

There's actually some counterplay to his sustain. You can approach the Omen Of Famine Ghoul, and force it to chase you instead of auto attacking the minions. That makes his heal roughly 40% less effective, assuming you don't let the Ghoul somehow auto attack you. The only Ghoul that can outrun you (at least at early levels) is his Q's Ghoul, and he has to auto attack a minion to summon him.

Honestly, I've never done too poorly in team fights with him. He's pretty damn tanky, and he does a lot of damage, and he scales REALLY well into the late game. I build either item 3004 item 3071 item 3078 item 3742 item 3022 item 3111 , or item 3004 item 3025 item 3071 item 3065 item 3022 item 3111 on him. It gives him 40% CDR, about 160 Armor and Magic Resist, about 320 AD, 3300 health, and a ton of stickiness.

Ralanr2 votes

He doesn't suck. He's just boring to play for a lot of people and oppressive to fight against.

Not to mention the lack of an identity.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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He doesn't suck. He's just boring to play for a lot of people and oppressive to fight against.

Not to mention the lack of an identity.

He's a Juggernaut that deals a lot of damage with summoned minions. That's his identity.

Also, there are tons of people who say he isn't played because he sucks, like Pojalsta over there. That's what leads me to think the popular opinion is that Yorick Mori is trash.

Gusdel1 votes

Yorick is great the way he is. Riot gave him some issue early game and mid with mana issues. The reason is that his kit is oppressive as hell to melee champions and a lot of ranged tops. They call it toxic which it is. If he didn't have mana issues you couldn't CS against him his ghouls would poke you out of lane. Now other top laners are oppressive too like swain but he has counters. Yorick 5 years a go had no counters. Today he has a few like swain the new kennen and a few others will win lane but if he had no mana issue I can not say that they would.

redfeenix1 votes

He sucks because hes hella boring to play and play against. Not because hes weak.

If i wanted freelo i'd play yorick every game. But i'd rather staple my lips shut than play that boring af champion.

PS- are we talking about old or new yorick

Wind Whistler1 votes

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He sucks because hes hella boring to play and play against. Not because hes weak.

If i wanted freelo i'd play yorick every game. But i'd rather staple my lips shut than play that boring af champion.

PS- are we talking about old or new yorick

Old Yorick. Also, if you ACTUALLY wanted freelo, you'd play Galio. Galio is even stronger than Yorick. I just feel sick when I ult two people and they lose 80% of their health, then finish both of them off with my Q and E, not to mention getting out alive because of the stupid ass heal on my W.

Also, thanks for explaining to me the reason why he "sucks". Up until this point, I thought people thought that he was ACTUALLY bad, which they probably still do. It's just that SOME of the people meant he sucks as in he's boring. Regardless, I find him fun, and will be very sad to see him go. I'm actually playing nothing but Yorick up until the next patch.

Killstrado1 votes

They didn't rework him because he couldn't do damage or carry games, the did it for visuals, variety in game play, and to make him less cancerous to play against.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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They didn't rework him because he couldn't do damage or carry games, the did it for visuals, variety in game play, and to make him less cancerous to play against.

I don't really understand how Yorick is cancerous. He seems fine to me. Besides, people like Pojalsta say the reason is because he's weak, and even though that's not true, Riot could definitely because a lot of people think he's weak.

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