@Riot So how many more season are 8 players held hostage by 2 monkeys in the jungle?

Is there like anything? Half a year ago you talked about nerfing their sustain so they cannot just be permanently full health and mana and never have to think about their actions? Anything on that? No?

How about a report option for junglers only who afk the entire game and just sit in their jungle and do nothing? Nah we keep buffing the jungle by making neutral objectives even stronger haHAAA that's the solution.

Like seriously fuck irelia, akali, dark harvest, powercreep all the other shit. Ever since riot thought we need 5 carry roles this game has been going downhill. Like what is the tradeoff anymore for the power supports and jungler have nowadays? What a jungler gets solo lane resources while being permanently full health, get red smite, get every champ changed and buffed to give them even more champs to jungle, all the power over objectives, all the vision clear, timers, new gank routes through plants, laner vision nerfed to make it even easier to gank and for what? Because they kill AI camps every two minutes? That's the big skill requirement that nets them this huge power over the game?

Literally EVERYONE complains about jungle power, three times as much junglers than any other role in the high ranks, bar midlane who will always be impactful, in literally every server. Pro games entirely decided by junglers and we stick our heads in the sand and pretend like everything is fine.

Since the rework in s7 the jungle has been this shitfest and four players don'T get to play league if they don't have a jungler and don't tell me this is not the case. I currently play bot, mid, top and it's the same shit all the time. Playing jungle? Easy mode walk around kill everyone haHAAA high skill well as long as you: A) Have a brain b) Don't have three losing lanes because then the fun starts when literally everyone invades you, wards the shit out of the jungle and you never get to play.

So either one jungler dominates the game and 1v9s all the time or he can't do shit and watch the map crash and burn. How is that healthy for the game?

But four players weigh more than one jungler on each side. So the frustration comes from being the better laner but literally not being able to do anything when the jungler decides to camp your ass, just free gold for his team. So every game you are held hostage by either jungler because apparently junglers are not supposed to gank or countergank or win lanes or take objectives or anything because whenever jungle discussion comes up the jungle mains will flood the forums and tell us that they don't have to do anything and laners should play around their junglers. Soo how do i play around the gragas afk farming the entire game? Go back to fountain, get leaverbuster and call it a day? Or what is my option? The "theoretical" case of a jungler actually doing stuff while i absorb pressure? Unfortunately we are not living in this dream world. It's soloQ and i will always play with 4 NPCs.

If you want to make this game less bursty, less snowbally and bullshit jungle and support need to get back to being SUPPORTIVE roles as they are intented to be and not carry roles. OR there needs to be an actual trade off. Especially jungle idc about support since support will never be fixed otherwise noone plays it and everyone cries when they get autofilled every once in a while. Nerf jungle sustain, nerf xp and gold, buff respawn timers. Give laners room to breathe and actually play the game.