Why can Veigar rush Banshees to make me completely useless

Penns·Jan 1, 2017·2 votes·899 views

while getting more AP for free than I ever could from items just because he farms, which is what every other mid laner does as well? No idea how this is balanced at all lol.

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MR KIMCHI SENPAIJan 1, 20174 votes

lol I thought it was just me doing it.

Rush item 3102 against AP Rush item 3110 against AD

I also take CotC on veigar because I don't really need any other mastery. It's actually so good makes him almost op

Titanium70Jan 1, 20171 votes

Nah... CotC is garbage until lategame. Your stun lasts so long, you wont draw any profit out of it. And in late you usually explode is you're getting caught.

I recommend Deathfire for DMG (this thing deals DMG with 1000AP! and is great with Ludens) or Stormraiders if you're going for 45%. Stormraiders is your escape after blowing someone up, is alot more consistent to use and can be used to escape ganks by landing a W-Q or just R on one opponent. ^^

AhristocatsJan 1, 20174 votes

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No idea how this is balanced at all lol.

when the enemy becomes skilled, it becomes balanced

PennsJan 1, 20171 votes

Yeah because a skilled player can outplay the Banshees as assassin Kappa

AhristocatsJan 1, 20173 votes

if banshee is enough as a garbage item to make you useless

then yeah, you should consider doing something to improve

PennsJan 1, 20171 votes

Improve with Fizz how exactly when it blocks my ult and he doesnt let me get in Q range? lel

SirPacifistaJan 8, 20172 votes

You... are literally taking the champion as an example who can dodge Veigars ult, Meteor, Q, and jump out of his stun at the same time?

But since you asked:

Improve with how exactly when it blocks my ult and he doesnt let me get in Q range? lel

If he uses his stun, go in the middle, evade his meteors by going avoiding it, if there are minions stand behind 2 = Veigar cant do shit now. Now use Q to proc B. then R+W if he has meteor up again (which he shouldnt Fizz does easily kill even the most famred Veigar if he gets near him) then jump away OR om him with your E. Tadaaaa dead Veigar.

Also, first item Banshees means he is missing alot of AP, mana regen, movement speed and what not. And dont forget its a team game. let the jungler gank, he can't do much against ganks.

DreadlocksJan 1, 20173 votes

"why can Veigar rush banshees" uhh because if he gets gold for it and chooses to invest in it, then he can do it. Derp... now buy a voidstaff and make him cry.

PennsJan 1, 20172 votes

"Why can he rush Banshees and still get more damage than me?" That champ is cancer but ok I guess well have to wait until some pro does it and people start copying him lul

PupelJan 1, 20172 votes

I mean he can do that but he wont be relevant till 35+ min even if he farms 200 ap by 20 min is that really all that much for vigar?

Titanium70Jan 1, 20171 votes

The Banshees works, but it really is a risky call - I did it in the past succesfully, but against a compedent player it will become a problem.

Yes, getting Banshees first means being immortal for a few minutes against some matchups. BUT it also gimps your Mana as well as your AP. You cant waveclear, you cant poke and you definitely can kill your opponent without Jungler.

Allowing your opponent to push the wave into your tower, screwing up your farm even more AND than go roaming to snowball either himselfe or other lanes.

OFC.. if you're stubborn freezing the wave in the middle of the lane because you want to kill him resulting in him having freefarm for 5-10 minutes until he gets the DMG to kill you and the items to be usefull for his team.. well... you lost. period.