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Nasus' "Wither" needs a change.

Rykagnar·12/6/2017, 8:18:49 AM·4 votes·965 views

This ability is probably one of the most unhealthy abilities in the game. A slow+cripple that basically renders you useless for 5 seconds unless you have A. flash or B. some kind of CC to stop him from chasing you.

Some may argue "Oh well he needs it because that's his only form of gap closer blah blah blah bruisers are bad rn blah blah". But his "Wither" is seriously unhealthy. It lasts 5 seconds, and with 40% CDR, you can literally perma-wither any target because the cooldown is 4.4 seconds and it lasts 5 seconds.

Nasus needs a different form of gap closer. I don't care what it is, but a stack-able cripple+slow that can be permanently applied by building only item 3078 and item 3110 is arguably unbalanced.

##One of three things need to happen...

 1. His Wither's cooldown needs to be increased, and the slow+cripple slightly decreased, as well as a steroid added to his passive/abilities.**

 2. He gets an entirely new gap closer altogether.

 3. His W becomes a skill-shot, so it is harder to land.

It's especially serious when the Nasus has 500+ stacks, you get slowed one time and you're practically already dead. It's unhealthy for the champion.

12 Comments

AmazoX12/6/2017, 8:33:17 AM7 votes

Do you want Nasus to become another Volibear? The games in league end in 15-20 minutes. If nasus gets to farm that many stacks, You deserve to die in this current Meta.

If nasus loses wither then Riot Games would be better off deleting Nasus because GP would become the god of farming then one shotting, Not one person but multiple with his barrels from a safe distance laughing out loud while your cc won't do jack sh1t because of his magical orange.

Vesemir12/6/2017, 12:26:35 PM4 votes

So you are telling us a champion that relies on his Wither in order to be able to ANYTHING useful needs that ability nerfed with all the CC that exist in the game? Not to mention he gets bullied hard by anyone at top lane. What you are asking is to gut Nasus so he becomes unplayable like Volibear. I bet you are a salty adcs main who tried to 1v1 Nasus got bashed in and come crying to boards about it.

BeatzBoyFTW12/6/2017, 8:54:20 AM3 votes

So are we gonna ignore the fact that Nasus requires a lot of mana to keep up with his Q stacks, despite Wither costs a whomping 80 mana at all ranks? Don't forget his E costing 130 mana at max rank.

Keyrtyn12/6/2017, 8:42:19 AM1 votes

hahahaha, first off i never build trinity or heart on nasus, and i dont even put a point in his wither until 4th lvl, and then i just leave it be because i dont really need it tbh.

if anything you guys should be more upset about nasus E, especially AP nasus, like i build. i can 1v2 top and their jungler all day long.

Anonagon12/6/2017, 8:45:09 AM1 votes

I agree completely.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see this thread downvoted to oblivion, because there's this idea floating around that Nasus is some godsend of beautiful champion design and wondrous fountain of counterplay that can do no wrong, but he's really not, and Wither is basically the source of all his problems as a champion design. Its incredibly low counterplay, it makes kiting an unobtainable goal for many champions, and it makes many of his matchups against other fighters work like a tank matchup, where Nasus wins as long as he doesn't feed early. Its an incredibly problematic ability and needs reworked.