We waited 6 months for promised lissandra buffs and this is what we get?

JarodDempsey··3 votes·1,464 views

untargetable 30% slow and super delayed damage, both gated behind enemies dying. This will do nothing to help lissandra. Her problems were that she didnt do enough damage and that she was too squishy. This new passive will give her some utility and also minor (but extremely avoidable) damage in teamfights but shes still left super weak in directly fighting people and also surviving.

The added utility is nice (albeit not great considering it relies on enemy positioning) but they really need to add some form of survivability boost to this statue passive unless the aoe is like as large as her ult.

Her burst will still be too weak to be a successful burst mage. Her cooldowns will be too long to be a battlemage. Her range is still too low to be an artillery mage. This passive wont even improve her ability to catch.

I cant reiterate this enough that it's a neat mechanic but it really fails to address her primary issues, she still wont be able to fight anyone on her own

Why not just let her collect ice shards from cc'd enemies that provide her with shield based on AP, you literally wouldnt even have to change the icon ffs and it would synergise super well with her 3 cc's and dive focused kit.

11 Comments

ƒrostγ2 votes

nah, this will make her a top tier wombo-combo champ. Just imagine the synergy with champs like Amumu/ Fiddle/ Mf etc. Meddler can't just give more damage to her, that would make her broken due to the nature of her kit. When she's ahead, she can delete a squishy even now as fast as an assassin, and they can't even do anything because of her CC chain.

And î oop1 votes

{quoted}

nah, this will make her a top tier wombo-combo champ. Just imagine the synergy with champs like Amumu/ Fiddle/ Mf etc. Meddler can't just give more damage to her, that would make her broken due to the nature of her kit. When she's ahead, she can delete a squishy even now as fast as an assassin, and they can't even do anything because of her CC chain.

not at all even when you are feed you need to use ALL of your abilities to burst someone, Q often multyple times. Compared to other burst mages thats TERRIBLE and when she goes in she doesnt have any way to get out like assasins

ƒrostγ1 votes

Lol. This isn't true at all. You can delete a champ without R if you have 3 items or more. If you can't, you're playing a champion wrong then. Her AP ratios are fairly high, and assuming your enemy has no MR, they're not surviving protobelt and your base rotation.

If she can delete the backline, she doesn't have to get out. With her R and hourglass she has 5 seconds of immortality.

And î oop1 votes

{quoted}

Lol. This isn't true at all. You can delete a champ without R if you have 3 items or more. If you can't, you're playing a champion wrong then. Her AP ratios are fairly high, and assuming your enemy has no MR, they're not surviving protobelt and your base rotation.

If she can delete the backline, she doesn't have to get out. With her R and hourglass she has 5 seconds of immortality.

that means that you feed AND that enemy is really squishy. In cases when you a bit behind or both of you are fairly balanced then its so hard to burst someone, hextech protobelt is really good for that tho but it has been nerfed few patches ago

ƒrostγ1 votes

Ye but that applies to literally every champ. When you're even you can still burst a squishy with no mr though. I have nearly 700k mastery on her so I know what i'm talking about.

And î oop1 votes

{quoted}

Ye but that applies to literally every champ. When you're even you can still burst a squishy with no mr though. I have nearly 700k mastery on her so I know what i'm talking about.

so do i but have you tried comparing her to other burst mages. Champs like zoe or lb need to us maybe 2 abilities to burst someone

ƒrostγ1 votes

Yeah, but their CC and teamfighting is far inferior.

Krully1 votes

last three seconds tho, that means assits so its not too bad, something like brand, im looking foward to the change

Frozen Diva1 votes

The new passive seems broken and sounds incredibly fun. Do you know how powerful it is when it comes to teamfights? -> Auto win. This is exactly what she needed to make her a teamfighting queen because now she provides a lot more even if her skills are on cooldown.

You can't give her amazing teamfighting skills/cc AND the ability to burst everyone down 1vs1 (but she can still do it if not behind). They've also planned changes to her E and W. Sounds very good imho.

And î oop1 votes

the passive does seem fun but as you said it is completely useless in 1v1 which is where you will se her the most since she is mid laner. The only thing i see being fixed now is the idea of support lissandra

JarodDempsey1 votes

Idk i mained her support for a couple seasons and i dont really see this helping much. Her support viability really fell off because her initial damage was too low and she couldnt stay alive long enough in the backline to keep someone shutdown or finish them off after others had done more damage, this passive unfortunately doesnt do anything to address either of those.

More from Gameplay

More by JarodDempsey