When you start seeing Ahri wearing Ninja Tabi In LCS, maby something should be done about leathality.
Before any Ninja tabi nerfs, IMO all 3 leathality items need to cost 300 more and IE, ER, and a few other items need to cost 300 less.
Tabi wasn't a problem before physical damage dealers started dealing more damage. If they nerf Tabi they're basically giving the increased amount of damage in the game their blessing and saying: "This is the new standard now. Get used to it."
this stuff happen only on events like lcs , because they play full defensive . if you actually try this on a ranked game you will get ganked by the opponents team fountain
Thats not much a thing off lethality, but more off full ad comps. I 4-5 out of 5 opponents deal physical damage and alot of that via AAs, Ninjas should be the god damn right call. It's the entier point off those boots to be effective in such scenarios. Also, LW ignoreing half the armor for 1300g atributes to it aswell, ninjas are one of the few items that offer defense vs AAs that isn't easily invalidated with 1300g.
Buffing IE and the crit items is just going to make Tabi more valuable and thus....still bought on most of the roster. Letting actual auto attackers do more damage earlier is just going to make the "12% less damage from autos" even more of a necessity when Caitlyn has IE+Zeal at 15 minutes and does 1/3 your health with a headshot crit (which cannot be dodged like a Varus arrow).
Two Words: Damage Creep
What makes Tabis strong is the absurd passive Not the armor
30 lethality meet 30 armor on boots
I think it pisses me right the hell off cause it means it is on the chopping block (which it sadly is on Riot's radar for nerfs) because of the need for it.
Instead of Riot realizing lethality is the problem, they are looking to "tone down" some friggin boots.
They're not building Tabi's simply to counter lethality. They're building Tabi's because Tabi's are OP, pure and simple. Hell, lethality isn't even that good anymore on anything other than assassins; adcs like Lucian, Jhin, and MF have started moving back to crit, or in Lucians case, Botrk and Triforce. Hell, Ghostblade rush is probably the weakest it's been since season 5 when it only had 35 AD; why anyone other than Zed or Talon still rushes that item is a mystery to me.
It just shows that even pros know that ADCs are fucking broken, but Riot is goinna nerf Tabi so their precious ADCs have even less counter options.
Lethality is bad against armor.
I'll repeat, lethality is BAD against armor.
Some ppl here doesnt seem to understand this and think lethality is an unbeateable stat.
leath was just nerfd
Riot will leave lethality as is and nerf Tabi to the ground
Lethality isn't the problem. And neither is tabi. Back in the day, ADCs use to make randouins as their last item to prevent assassins from killing them. The same thing with GA. The LCS is just showing how unimportant zerker greaves are with the other solid attack speed items, or caster based adcs (jihn, varus, lucian, mf). Tabis aren't the answer to assassins. Armor is.
Tabis are the answer to auto-attackers. Which riot has made intensely better by nerfing burst damage the 5% - 2.5% mastery in the offensive tree. Along with ghostblade's lethality and lethality as a stat instead of flat pen. This has been a slow scaling back of assassins. When all riot has to do is give AD's an item that gives both ARMOR and ATTACK DAMAGE or ATTACK SPEED. There's already an item in the game for ADs when faced with burst Mages (Hexdrinker), but there is no item in the game ADs to defend against burst assassins. The closest thing currently is frozen gauntlet, which is only useful on Ezreal and Urgot (maybe).
The lack of understanding of basic game mechanics in the community is outstanding.
costing less would be a buff to 
. Then boards will just complain about that.
TABI'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET ANY ARMOR
Riot deleted/nerfed every non-tank armor item except Tabi then you wonder why every non-tank builds it? I literally have to build it every game out of necessity because there's no other options.
If tabis counters lethality, which is op then it would be safe to assume that tabis is also op lol. You can't fight fire with fire if one fire is weaker than the other one. Nerf em both, imo.
Why df do people copy the pros... Tabi's been good for so long if you havent noticed it's jsut that everyone wants to imitate the pros to win
And then you open your eyes and see that no one on enemy team actually bought lethality
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IE, ER, and a few other items need to cost 300 less.
Lets remove 300g of stats too please.
All I think is that they hard counter Kalista.
What I think? I think it's common sense.
they nerfed all ad assassins ms by 30, and swifties by 20, and youre complaining about the most fucking gold effeicent boots getting put in line? WOW
Well ninja tabi did get a weird 5 more armor buff like half a year ago for no special reason. As long as they don't nerf it past that point I'm fine with it.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry: mages are building Tabi Boots because letahlity is omnipresent and overpowered, and some people want to nerf the Tabi Boots because "if mages buy them, they must be broken".
Are you serious...?
I like when people who want Tabi nerfs keeps over exaggerating their damage negation. "T-Tabi costs only 800 and it n-negates 6k of their items!" when in reality, Tabi negates only 800 - 1k of their stats which ironically is the lethality. Also failing to mention that Tabi's passive loses value the more you gain armor so there's that too.
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When you start seeing Ahri wearing Ninja Tabi In LCS, maby something should be done about leathality.
Why though? It's just counterbuilding, a natural part of playing the game.
Tabi is a vital defense item right now. If Tabi wasn't around, AD itemization would be straight broken. Lethality and Lategame Armor pen shred is so out of control that % auto reduction is the last reliable defense Tanks have.
