Most of Zyra's numbers got nerfed when she got her gameplay update, right?

Sèx Craved Eve·Feb 10, 2017·3 votes·970 views

Just a funny little topic I've been thinking about today. "Oh, god, more Zyra threads". SHUT UP NERD

Alright, on to business. The things making Zyra super strong right now have mostly been addressed. I mean her plants still auto target anyone autoing them within their range. I'm not sure if that's a problem or not, because everything has a right to defend themselves. Keepo. One strange thing I have been noticing about her passive is where you're standing may be determining where your passive will lay plants, as I was able to setup about four on a red buff by standing in a certain spot. Could have just been RNG but then again it could be relative to your current position. Any confirmation of this by someone who knows how she's coded?

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FingerFlavoredFeb 10, 20172 votes

Old zyra main here:

Yes her Plant base stats where a lot stronger and support zyra would max E first for the longer snare. "longer snare supplied more poke" and if you snared them you could usually Auto freely for more harass.

Also a lot of the old masteries where % base damage which boosted her plant damage.

I still play zyra support when i have to support now and the way you play her still hasn't changed. However i notice everyone that play zyra support picks Q first and i cringe. I rather Snare a target and get 60-80% of there HP compared to a Q poke of 20-40% if there idiots to stay and let plants hit them.

What makes New Zyra is that she can have more plants on the field which actually is vary nice

Mig89Feb 10, 20171 votes

The thing about her now is that you can level her skills depending on who you're laning against. If im laning against a blitz/thresh/morg/naut ill max my seeds first because it isnt hard to block theyr hook/snare with a plant spawn right in front of yourself. If they have a poke lane you can throw a coupe points in Q early. She very versatile in the support role because of this, i feel. Plus, If you never sit on two seeds and you keep throwing the second one blocking a gank path or something your lane quickly becomes a kill lane. Ive baited a gank into a bush with 4 seeds in it and ruined their JG's day. I havent played her since her nerf this week, however. The AI nerf on her plants may suck.

FingerFlavoredFeb 10, 20171 votes

Just MAX E first.

If blitz/thresh/morg/naut tries to run at you just throw your seeds/Snare in front of them. Even if you miss the slow on the seeds will punish them and take to much damage.

Early game you can always zone out blitz/thresh/morg/naut to a point where they wont even try to pull you.

Keep in mind as zyra support youre not countered by individual support and only by Bot Make up.

Sivir/Morg Kalista/Janna Kalista/Tahm Ashe/Karma Ashe/Malphite Ashe/Vel

Basically Immortal Comps or KaBlam Make-ups and if you mix them up it doesn't work.

But ill admit i haven't played yet on the AI nerf either, But ill assume that even if there are no minions they should auto target and these champs usually try to go around minions to avoid there Q's being blocked

Sèx Craved EveFeb 10, 20171 votes

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Just MAX E first.

If blitz/thresh/morg/naut tries to run at you just throw your seeds/Snare in front of them. Even if you miss the slow on the seeds will punish them and take to much damage.

Early game you can always zone out blitz/thresh/morg/naut to a point where they wont even try to pull you.

Keep in mind as zyra support youre not countered by individual support and only by Bot Make up.

Sivir/Morg Kalista/Janna Kalista/Tahm Ashe/Karma Ashe/Malphite Ashe/Vel

Basically Immortal Comps or KaBlam Make-ups and if you mix them up it doesn't work.

But ill admit i haven't played yet on the AI nerf either, But ill assume that even if there are no minions they should auto target and these champs usually try to go around minions to avoid there Q's being blocked

I'd suggest for a morgana that's trying to get aggressive with her blackshield up to use your qw on her to break the shield before you snare her. That's just an experienced little thing I thought I'd add to this.

FingerFlavoredFeb 11, 20171 votes

Of course, but 2 spell shields are a real pain. Morgana alone with any other type of ADC is shit

Sèx Craved EveFeb 10, 20171 votes

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The thing about her now is that you can level her skills depending on who you're laning against. If im laning against a blitz/thresh/morg/naut ill max my seeds first because it isnt hard to block theyr hook/snare with a plant spawn right in front of yourself. If they have a poke lane you can throw a coupe points in Q early. She very versatile in the support role because of this, i feel. Plus, If you never sit on two seeds and you keep throwing the second one blocking a gank path or something your lane quickly becomes a kill lane. Ive baited a gank into a bush with 4 seeds in it and ruined their JG's day. I havent played her since her nerf this week, however. The AI nerf on her plants may suck.

The ai nerf isn't that bad if you hit spells or if there are no minions nearby, they will still target the closest enemy to them. You just gotta get used to it. Autoing someone within a plants range also makes them target that person, hope that helps.

Mig89Feb 11, 20171 votes

Yeah i knnow how they work and i can work around it but its gonna cost me some early poke dmg.

Sèx Craved EveFeb 10, 20171 votes

However i notice everyone that play zyra support picks Q first and i cringe. I rather Snare a target and get 60-80% of there HP compared to a Q poke of 20-40% if there idiots to stay and let plants hit them.

Ikr that shit irks me

FingerFlavoredFeb 10, 20172 votes

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Ikr that shit irks me

Glad i am not the only one :P