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Meddler, Is Zyra seriously how you want her to be?

4NoxiousHours··2 votes·640 views

Don't you find her passive the most random/slack idea? Here are my issues with her Passive

  • When I want to hide in the bush to avoid attacks and be sneaky, I literally don't have a passive.
  • I have to be in one certain spot for a long period of time in order to spawn the seeds where I want them to spawn.
  • The spawning of the seeds are so random that there are situations where my seeds spawn BEHIND me FAR away.
  • Even If I do stand in one place in hope that the seeds will spawn in the right place, it sometimes spawns right next to the enemy.

I don't like her passive at all. It's too random and it doesn't justify the kind of theme that you guys were originally saying. I don't feel like Zyra is even part of the summoner rift's nature. I feel like she's not in control of her seeds at all. Zyra doesn't own the seeds, the seeds owns her. Shouldn't work like that.

Moving along with one last issue. Her Q.

  • It's visually lackluster. You can't see anything awe about it. It's just SMALL roots popping up for a split second.
  • It's a mock up of Malzahar's Q except his Q is more visual and has more strong presence.
  • No damage what so ever. Why? Because it's practically made for her passive's sake. To spawn plants that aren't there cuz they spawn behind her or out of her range. Her W is her savior when her passive doesn't want to help.

A Rioter has said that you guys removed her from being a mid lane mage and set her up as a support main. That honestly broke my heart. This champion was so well made before the rework. It will be a light to see her back in mid lane but the cost of balancing her as a mid laner and support is great.

I would actually love for you guys to change your minds again about her being a support main and put her back where she was originally supposed to be. A mid lane utility mage. It will be rough to balance her as a mid laner again without being too dominate as a support, but there has been many ideas that you guys didn't see or ignored cuz you wanted to follow this fantasy theme of her being one with nature.

Im not asking for an immediate rework. You guys have too much in your hands to back track where you started, but it will be greatly appreciative if you could redo her again like you did with Cassiopeia.

7 Comments

Linna Excel4 votes

I'd personally prefer her being nudged back into being a mid primary/support secondary balance.

4NoxiousHours1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=avGuUbzU,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-15T23:01:15.951+0000)

I'd personally prefer her being nudged back into being a mid primary/support secondary balance.

That's exactly what I want too.

Mossy Lungs2 votes

I agree on her Q being just a lackluster seed grower, and her passive does feel and look very "we used up 10 mins of brainstorming to create". The spawning distance and placement of her passive seeds feels like it only works well on rare occasions where you find yourself saying "oh that random seed that popped out Zyra's booty 20 Teemos out of range of my abilities somehow WAS useful.. cool". I originally thought the passive was gonna be reworked into something similar to Illaoi tentacles, like Zyra would spawn a stagnant plant in a small area around her and maybe stay inactive until an enemy walked into it's range then it would be active for like 6 seconds or whatever her current plants are active for, and therefore when walking through river or whatever you'd spawn some plants that just sat there providing no real use at all until maybe Jax came to gank then your Plant would wake up and give vision of him.

4NoxiousHours1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mossy Lungs,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=avGuUbzU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-15T22:43:30.304+0000)

I agree on her Q being just a lackluster seed grower, and her passive does feel and look very "we used up 10 mins of brainstorming to create". The spawning distance and placement of her passive seeds feels like it only works well on rare occasions where you find yourself saying "oh that random seed that popped out Zyra's booty 20 Teemos out of range of my abilities somehow WAS useful.. cool". I originally thought the passive was gonna be reworked into something similar to Illaoi tentacles, like Zyra would spawn a stagnant plant in a small area around her and maybe stay inactive until an enemy walked into it's range then it would be active for like 6 seconds or whatever her current plants are active for, and therefore when walking through river or whatever you'd spawn some plants that just sat there providing no real use at all until maybe Jax came to gank then your Plant would wake up and give vision of him.

I've read where people assumed that the passive was going to be similar towards illaoi's. Honestly that would've been for the better but having two champions with the same passive isn't something Riot would want or do. When they brought up Zyra and the plans they were going to do for her, i honestly had no idea what they were talking about. It all just sounded to me that they are nerf'ing her out of mid lane and placing her as a support main and add more plants. That's it. Nothing about the amazing concepts/suggestions that players had for her were ever discussed about.

Mossy Lungs1 votes

Lots of champions have similar or basically the same passives, passives that gives your next ability no cost, or passives that give resistances via specific conditions. Zyra's is extremely lame as of now.

Muzét2 votes

They didn't use 10 minutes brainstorming, just one guy popped and said "What if we bring Illaoi's passive to Zyra ?" 10/10

Ada Wong1 votes

Zyra is still a good mid what are u talking about lol?

Although I don't like the passive just spawning randomly everywhere it should spawn next to your cursor instead.

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