Some suggested Shyvana changes

Mira Arya Enthe··3 votes·470 views

Just some suggested changes to help Shyvana gank early game and be more solid all around.

Buffs: Add a slow to her E. This would let her gank early game without taking exhaust. The slow could be 30% for 1.5s, and could be reapplied on basic attacks while they are marked, but for 15% for .5 seconds.

Fix the wonky hitbox on her ult and add a .5 second stun if your ult lands directly onto people. This would encourage aiming her ult, reward good play, and give her so more minor ganking power. She would have more team fight presence. And Shyvana's would be more hesitant to just blow their ult as an escape.

Nerfs: Slightly reduce the late game damage of her W, not the on hit, only the AoE. To make it so she has to actually AA and Q enemies to be rewarded with damage. This means she will have to land the E and get AA's while in her W to optimize damage, rather than just turning on W and spamming dance in the enemy team. Make sure the nerf is to base damage late game, not to scaling.

Other than that, I think Shyvana is in a fine spot right now. I love the champion and play her quite a bit. I do miss AD/On hit Shyvana, but she is okay for the moment.

EDIT: These changes will give her more sticking power and engage strength so she is more useful for ganking and teamfights. As she can stick and is harder to kite, she will get off more total damage even with nerfs to the base damage on her W AoE. This will make her a far more effective jungler and team player, while ever so slightly nerfing her insane late game dueling power and AoE damage. But only by a bit. It will also let her have a bit higher skill cap, as I see Shyvana's constantly miss their E and still win fights. This will reward her for hitting it more, and nerf her insane damage from just standing near you with W.

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Forhonor3212 votes

Overall I like these ideas. Shyv definitely needs some sort of slow pre 6 and adding one like this to her E would be a huge help to her. At the same time fixing the hit box on her ult is something Riot should've fixed an extremely long time ago. Having the nerf to W doesn't seem that big since it's going to be late game but remember that it's basically the first ability you level up for clearing. However it does do more damage to minions/monsters so I could just be getting worked up over nothing.

I do have to say one thing though: I don't really know how I feel about the stun on the ult. It does sound like a good idea, but honestly I'd rather have you gain bonus tenacity or small health bonus when in dragon form rather then gaining double of your not-so-interesting passive. Or better yet just make it unstoppable. You're turning into a dragon. You shouldn't be able to be heavy CC while in mid flight. These are just what I would suggest though. Otherwise good job.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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Overall I like these ideas. Shyv definitely needs some sort of slow pre 6 and adding one like this to her E would be a huge help to her. At the same time fixing the hit box on her ult is something Riot should've fixed an extremely long time ago. Having the nerf to W doesn't seem that big since it's going to be late game but remember that it's basically the first ability you level up for clearing. However it does do more damage to minions/monsters so I could just be getting worked up over nothing.

I do have to say one thing though: I don't really know how I feel about the stun on the ult. It does sound like a good idea, but honestly I'd rather have you gain bonus tenacity or small health bonus when in dragon form rather then gaining double of your not-so-interesting passive. Or better yet just make it unstoppable. You're turning into a dragon. You shouldn't be able to be heavy CC while in mid flight. These are just what I would suggest though. Otherwise good job.

Good suggestions. Hello same icon buddy ;P

Unstoppable alone would be nice.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

man, i must have a case of deja vu cuz i could have sworn that Shyvana wasnt viable and needs alot of help if not a rework to do so in some thread earlier today?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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man, i must have a case of deja vu cuz i could have sworn that Shyvana wasnt viable and needs alot of help if not a rework to do so in some thread earlier today?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

I do recall some demands that she absolutely needs a "Massive Rework". Which this is not.

Massive Rework falls in line with things like Sion, Yorick and Poppy. Which is not what Shyvana needs. She needs some tweaks to her ult, a way to gank early game, and some compensating nerfs to her late game dueling power. Which are small changes to tune the champion. Not a 'massive rework'. She also is viable, she just isn't top tier. Not being Viable falls under the category of tier 4 and 'trash tier' champions. Which Shyvana has never been, even at her lowest.

Urf Mode Is Life1 votes

im not a fan of giving her E a slow for the simple fact that when her W is going, shes stupidly fast... ive gotten shyv up to 600MS without ghost... thats not OK to give that mobility a slow

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

Eh, she doesn't really need a slow added into her kit. Frozen Mallet already gives what she needs.

Just gank with Red Buff early game and it shouldn't be a problem. Plus, she already benefits more from the MS stealing smite, so it's not like you need to take Exhaust.

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