Mordekaiser is an absolute abomination.

it be lìke that··15 votes·7,023 views

Every game he is in, he gets super fed and is hyper oppressive his win rate is off the chart, maybe this is just a problem up to gold elo but i dont know. I would put him well above akali on the failed rework chart.

I either need to ban him and get hard countered mid, or ban my hard counter and watch my team int into him top lane.

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sssaucyboi6 votes

Mordekaiser is overrated.

I have fought him many times in the top lane. And i can say i have destroyed him almost every game.

Mordekaiser is a strong laner comparable to Garen and Jax . So you must play a strong lane duelist in return like Tryndamere or Darius . Of course Morde will dumster on someone like Nasus . Thats what lane bullies are for.

My personal favorite counterpick is Urgot , you can out duel him even in his ult. I once made a morde go AFK after solo killing him in lane 3 times. Once you kill him once you can kill him over and over again.

So do your best to punish him once he misses his pull or Q, then all in him. If youre in a somewhat unfavourable position, just keep your distance. I know it is easier said than done, but he has his weaknesses just like everyone else

Maybe Im biased because I dont play an ADC that fears the ult, but really he is not as powerful as people think.

Busty Demon1 votes

Playing as an adc i would like to know what to do when he ults me 4 times in a row.

Ralanr3 votes

Kite him and survive. Outside of his pull, he has no way to catch you unless he’s hitting you with a Rylas affected spell, which if you’re dodging his E will be his Q. So long as you can avoid getting his passive to activate you can avoid him pretty easily in his ult.

Troll for Trump5 votes

He's super predictable, similar to aatrox and moreso than darius. His winrate plat+ is like 50-51%. He's just another juggernaut type guy.

JackMcCarry1 votes

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He's super predictable, similar to aatrox and moreso than darius. His winrate plat+ is like 50-51%. He's just another juggernaut type guy.

Where do you get these stats from? I see 53% WR and 10% pickrate in toplane in plat+

https://m.u.gg/lol/champions/mordekaiser/build

Troll for Trump1 votes

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Where do you get these stats from? I see 53% WR and 10% pickrate in toplane in plat+

https://m.u.gg/lol/champions/mordekaiser/build

op.gg

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

On op.gg*. his winrate everywhere else is 52%+

Fear the Kayn4 votes

item 3140 ?

it be lìke that3 votes

this argument has been around for 8 years and it wasnt good then it certainly isnt now.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

you know, malza could be countered by it too

and he was still fucking cancer and broken

MuminsAreGreat4 votes

Stop supporting Riot Games... they hates us all!

Lemexis3 votes

I play Mordekaiser a lot and I can tell you the laning phase is far from an automatic win. Ranged champs are a very tough matchup, and a few melee ones like Jax or Darius too. And Kench completely destroys me in the laning phase - I'm guessing Mordekaiser's positive winrate against him is due to the fact that Kench is simply a "win lane, lose game" champ, as many people have said.

So yeah, if your top ints to him it just means they play poorly and failed to respect the champ's power in 1v1.

it be lìke that1 votes

nobody top lane is gonna just farm solely, they will always try to fight, even into morde and tahm.

Lemexis1 votes

Why would they do that if it means they're most likely going to lose ? Isn't that stupid ?

No matter the lane, if I'm in a very bad matchup I just suck it up and farm safely until laning phase is over, because if I try anything else I just end up dying.

La Bello2 votes
  1. QSS tax or Cleanse makes him a complete non-factor alternatively item 3194 seriously hampers his DPS if you are tank OR item 3091 if you are DPS. Mages have access to item 3102 so Morde becomes really hesitant to R you.
  2. play literally any champ with mobility/ranged options or high duel power. Morde cant fight people who WANT to fight him Darius Jax DrMundo MasterYi Zed Udyr Tryndamere mid to late will dumpster him mercilessly and like wise he cant land his E he has zero options to get on top of someone such as Vayne Ezreal Lucian outside of just trudging forward fruitlessly.
  3. try walking a mile (or at least 5-10 games) in the champions shoes then ask yourself if you feel the same way.

I think Morde is another Darius case where he will absolutely dumpster any and everyone at lower elo's due to the straightforward high power kit but wont see play at higher levels unless numbers are disgusting enough to overlook his clear weaknesses.

it be lìke that1 votes

His r is absolutely not the problem.

The problem is he has a grab which when used correctly he is going to land eventually and rightfully so, into an absolute slobber knocker of an attack.

no 2 button combo is that punishing, not even Zoe, and hers has a hell of a lot more set up.

Iron Phantom2 votes

Morde isn't even close to the abomination akali was after her rework, her kit is fundamentally broken, Morde can easily be fixed with number tweaks, or a duration reduction on his ultimate to 5 sec at rank 1 and go up to 7 at rank 3.

preternatural1 votes

midi-tier abomination.

it be lìke that1 votes

over a 50% winrate across 3 lanes didnt Karthus just get smizzacked for that?

Daddy Ants1 votes

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over a 50% winrate across 3 lanes didnt Karthus just get smizzacked for that?

Least Morde is interactive.

Karthus just afk power farms and presses R from the jungle to "gank"

Meteora7071 votes

personally haven't had any problems with him but this might be just because I play champs like jax, trynda and garen

it be lìke that2 votes

all i know is, once i see "killing spree" and its mordekaiser we have lost the game.

Meteora7071 votes

I'd assume this is somewhat of a low elo thing, most champions are a problem when fed but you can play around the immobile ones pretty easily by just not fighting them and having split push pressure, of course this assumes that your team is somewhat competent.

it be lìke that1 votes

an assumption i never make. low elo goes, "imma gonna fight him"

  • okay i died but that was obv a fluke, im gonna fight him again. -okay didnt even get him to 50% this is clearly the junglers fault flames
Meep Man1 votes

I really havent had much issue with him.

ZeroAgainst1 votes

hes a blessing to top lane players if they can first pick him imo

he sucks against things that can space themselves well which alot of people dont do when they get ulted they do 1 escape and try to hide which never works.

he also would be super bad into other champs who wanna 1v1 him ex trundle

Tin Obliterates1 votes

I don't even know what opinion to have on Morde anymore. On one hand I think he's op because the stats do show that he's too strong, but then in game most of my success comes from the fact that people don't ever respect my damage output and tankiness and just rush into me blindly thinking I'll go down easy. He feels really similar to Darius to me in that way and yet I notice people usually don't respect him half as much as they would a Darius (unless I'm extremely fed but then you'd do that with any fed champ), leading to many unfortunate and avoidable deaths.

Ah and also barely any ADCs I see build QSS against him. Say whatever you wish about that argument not justifying how strong Morde is, but that shit can be a lifesaver and yet people often choose to forego it.

Feel Apathy1 votes
it be lìke that1 votes

"Dodge everything" is not a solution really its not remotely feasible. He will eventually land his cc and ko you before you can react leaving little to no room for counterplay especially if he has a rylai.

Tahm bench is great in lane but there is a reason people say "win lane lose game" hes pretty average/low tier outside of lane as to where morde is strong at all stages.

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

His Q needs Windslash treatment (slower travel time). Right now it's too oppressive to play around.

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