How does one beat a comp with alot of supports that abuse a hypercarries?

taleofsonata·Jul 15, 2017·2 votes·617 views

Yea I'm calling out that Kayle boosting strat that works on every supports and jungler that shield an ally.

Hypercarries:

junglers:

Supports:

Mid:

18 Comments

Big LincolnJul 15, 20173 votes

kill the supports

420 gramsJul 15, 20171 votes

Kill the carry and out damage the supports after?

taleofsonataJul 15, 20171 votes

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Kill the carry and out damage the supports after?

Killing the carry is the biggest problem because its actually super hard.

meowwow7Jul 15, 20171 votes

or yet take down the pillars so that way they don't get shielded for more than baron's health

BALDG1VEN BOOMERJul 15, 20171 votes

5v5? No lol, those comps are meant for what they're designed for

archerno1Jul 15, 20171 votes

Basically hyper carries are only good late game. They are trash early game. U just need to abuse that fact and close the game early.

taleofsonataJul 15, 20171 votes

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Basically hyper carries are only good late game. They are trash early game. U just need to abuse that fact and close the game early.

but thats the thing the jungler was just camping the hypercarrie lane. Forcing the late game to come earlier because the enemie was constantly trading with Jax.

archerno1Jul 15, 20171 votes

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but thats the thing the jungler was just camping the hypercarrie lane. Forcing the late game to come earlier because the enemie was constantly trading with Jax.

What do you mean camping? YOu kill him, get tower, push further, get another tower. Go other lane, kill that support, get tower, go futher, get another tower. Push all towers by 15 mins. Enemy will be far behind in gold, push and finish by minute 22-23

if jungler ganks hypercarry and just f...s off from his lane, its pointless. U need to push and get objectives.

KoKobotoJul 16, 20171 votes

Assassins are the best for those situations I reckon. Have a champion that can split up a fight than have an assassin get that key target.

Or you could run a poke comp and focus on gunning down the supports. You safely burst down their supports and than the carries got no back up. Have your supports be focused around disengage.

GeshultzJul 16, 20171 votes

The easiest way is to split push forcing their team into suboptimal positions. Forcing the enemy to have to bring 2+ more people to stop the split push giving your team a number's advantage. Making it easier to win against the comp.

LightIsMyPathJul 16, 20171 votes

Following. I had some time ago a game in which our top was kayle, our jungler Yi our ADC Ashe and support zilean (or maybe morgana? Can't remember right now but one of these 2). I was mid and picked Lulu. I honestly have no idea what the enemy team could have done. They tried invading Yi early: Boom me and kayle collapsing in the jungle, double kill for Yi and one for me. Then they tried to gank kayle but she just dodged stuff with her speed and recalled. Then they tried to gank me: Counter gank from Yi I died but Yi got a double. I respawn and as I walk in lane Yi ganks me again: A kill for me, we rotate top and get a kill plus fb turret plus herald. Then pp took mid turret in 3 while toplaner had to deal with a huge wave and 5 men ganked bot : Enemy jungler collapses and top tps Yi survives anyway and kayle tps top to drop her herald so they had to back to defend their inhib turret (t2 fell instantly with kayle plus herald). Meanwhile we crush bot in 4 and take drake. In all this Yi was so fed he killed everyone on sight in and if they tried to catch him out reinforcement would arrive in no time with all our mov speed buffs, (yes maybe we had zil support) anticipated by Ashe arrow... We destroyed them so hard they surrendered after Yi got a penta after getting caught out of position as while his GA was popping kayle tped into ashe arrow into me arriving at speed of light with ult ready xD pretty frustrating sight for them

TruelyTrueTruethJul 16, 20171 votes

im not sure i might be wrong but i think that yi and kayle mightve been my friend and me i remeber playing a game of yi and kayle with an ashe and zilean

but idk

LightIsMyPathJul 16, 20171 votes

Different server but same strategy xD super-Yi

TimX24968BJul 16, 20171 votes

1 thing: cc lots of it.

YaskamasandwichJul 16, 20171 votes

Those comps are godly 5v5s. You have to split push like mad. Those comps are a master of team fights 5v5 but with an Achille's heel: Their damage all comes from one person or possibly two people. So you can even go 1/3/1 with the right comp or champions. Yes it requires the right champions but the selection is big.

If there are more than one hyper carry you'll require to end the game fast. Especially since most hyper carries can 1v1 anyone late game useless it's a certain type of hyper carry or certain champion. However hyper carries usually have weak early games so you can do it.

DunkinNoobsJul 16, 20171 votes

Poke and ranged burst. These kind of teams typically struggle to engage and can be worn down by poke. They also tend to be weak to split push as only their carry can actually fight anyone. Carry heavy teams of your own are also good. Their guy can only kill 1 person at a time and will quickly fall to focus fire from 3 damage champs, even with all that support.