It's time to gut ap damage and mana

Bultz·Jul 12, 2019·4 votes·1,426 views

There are too many ap champions doing absurd damage. Ap champions aren't just slow none mobile champions anymore. Ap items need to lose damage as well as ap champions need to lose damage. Most of them have high mobility with high utility and get to use the broken damage levels ap offers.

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all are super fucking mobile. Keeping ap as broken as it is makes no sense anymore. Sure maybe 5 years ago when everyone mage walked like a bug, but now they are as or more mobile than ad champions. And if they aren't mobile, their damage and utility is still to high. No lux should spam me 100 times because she can use her whole kit 100 times with half a pool of mana left. It's time to cut the ap champions. Most of them are dueling at this point. Like gut them.

Gut mana levels and gut ap damage.

11 Comments

The thigh guyJul 12, 20195 votes

Ad damage is just as stupidly high as ap soooo

LordGeovanniAug 2, 20191 votes

no Crit damage is as stupidly high as ap damage and only ranged champions can reliably build crit

The thigh guyAug 2, 20191 votes

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no Crit damage is as stupidly high as ap damage and only ranged champions can reliably build crit

That’s why ad assassins are over killing by 3x someone’s health bar right?

LordGeovanniAug 2, 20191 votes

Only 1.3 for mages who refuse to build hp or armor but every but mages almost always build item 3157 item 3165 . But mages dont get mad when they do the same thing to full 3k hp tanks just because they didnt build more than 1 magic resist item.

ZephyrDrakeJul 12, 20194 votes

Sure let's also gut AD damage and resistances along with HP values across the board! Why? Because why the hell not? It'll make as much sense as "gutting AP damage and mana"

ZeroAgainstJul 12, 20193 votes

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Sure let's also gut AD damage and resistances along with HP values across the board! Why? Because why the hell not? It'll make as much sense as "gutting AP damage and mana"

you must not play ad champs alot.

ap items are pretty loaded right now back in the older seasons mages would give up dmg for more mana or cdr now every item is loaded with it and cost-effective one of the big reasons top lane is shit right now is that mages can come up there play safe and get their items quicker then their ad counterparts. also glp is way to cheap for everything it gives. theres even more we can go on about

2Charmnot2CharmJul 12, 20192 votes

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you must not play ad champs alot.

ap items are pretty loaded right now back in the older seasons mages would give up dmg for more mana or cdr

Are you serious right now? item 3174 item 3165 Were your two CDR/Mana/AP item of choice while the rest of your CDR is from Runes and Mastery, unless you're one of those who were never confident in certain AP match ups and took MR blues instead, but in that case you still have blue buff which gave 20% CDR AND ABILITY POWER.

The extra CDR on more items hasn't done anything for mages, even if it did riot removed a lot of ap from mage items that didn't have CDR previously.

LordGeovanniAug 2, 20191 votes

The diffrence is 80ap versus regularly 120 ap versus what is now 80 ap on most lower tier ap items and 100 ap on the higher tier ones the mordern one also give more cdr much more mana (to compound with ap champions having lower base cooldowns and mana costs in morder league) Morellos was much later (post damage inflation and the 3rd round defense degradation there has been 6 rounds to date as mass nerfs since season 3) and buffed to be the all encompasing items it was it was item 3285 until riot decided to change it so there can be another ludens echo so that ap assassins could have access to anti heal without droping small amounts of gold on large amounts of mana

manolis201Jul 12, 20192 votes

Again you have problems with so many ability power champs? then you must not be that good of a player i have like problem with 2-3 picks not 20 lol. P.S i wonder what this guy would do if he saw that back at 2014-2013 Katarina etc could oneshot you with 90 ap i wonder what he wouldl say then xD.

BultzJul 12, 20192 votes

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Again you have problems with so many ability power champs? then you must not be that good of a player i have like problem with 2-3 picks not 20 lol. P.S i wonder what this guy would do if he saw that back at 2014-2013 Katarina etc could oneshot you with 90 ap i wonder what he wouldl say then xD.

What I would do is be on here and ask for a nerf. Me observing obviously broken mechanics in the game and asking for fixes to obviously outdated game traits doesn't make me a bad player. Congratulates you added nothing to my post.