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I thought clarity was something riot liked

TheMonkeyKiing·10/7/2018, 11:35:05 AM·4 votes·1,411 views

If clarity is what riot wants, why the hell is it that all this time they haven't clarified that dark harvest only procs with on-hit? I don't use dark harvest, I mainly use press the attack, aery, arcane comet, electrocute. I tried using dark harvest and wanted to try it on a teemo q because it would be annoying like gangplank. My whole gameplan didn't work and I was basically like a teemo without a strong key rune. If I try to fight an adc to proc my dark harvest with teemo's short ass range, i get a barrage of damage from the support cc followed by adc flurries. Unlike ezreal, Teemo's range is too bad to use dark harvest safely on most adcs who outrange him along with a support with good cc. Keep in mind that im not saying to buff teemos attack range, no. I am simply saying, all riot could have done was put that dark harvest only procs with on hit effects. Is it so hard to clarify that? cmonbruh

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Lets have shrex10/7/2018, 12:11:29 PM3 votes

But Dark Harvest on Teemo is terribl anyway, why don't you go for Hail of blades if you want an on-hit effect ? It even increases your movement speed, allowing you to follow up

Solicitude10/7/2018, 11:42:19 AM2 votes

Taken from Dark harvest description "Collecting a Soul Essence empowers your next basic attack against an enemy champion or structure". Thats pretty much as clarified as it could be. Of course, some abilities like Gangplank Q and Ezreal Q are treated as autoattacks, thus triggering on-hit effects, like Dark Harvest.

Apparently you didnt read the description before opting to take it.

Solicitude10/7/2018, 12:02:47 PM1 votes

Btw item 3087 : Passive: "Moving and attacking will make an attack Energized" Just in case, skills and spells wont make an attack energized.

TheMonkeyKiing10/7/2018, 12:56:00 PM1 votes

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Now, seriously, what do you think is the difference between attack, basic attack or auto attack within an in-game description? None. Look at Aery's description for example "Your attacks and abilities send Aery to a target". Its pretty much clarified, i dont believe many people had any problem understanding when dark harvest procs when the rune came out. Let alone months later. Did you expect like a page of description before you could consider it clarified?

Here is why the word attack is weird and does not have clarity. If I was veigar and i told you i would not attack you, but i kill you with my e w q r combo and you get mad saying i thought you said you weren't gonna attack me. It would be weird because generally attack means to attack and try to inflict damage. Using spells and abilities to do damage is technically attacking or doing attacks unless you know that riot is now using the term "attack" or "attacking" to exclusively mean basic attacks and attacks on hit. It goes back to my intro about how they can simply attack the word basic or on-hit to imply that they mean basic attacks and on hit effects. Trust me, any veteran who comes into the game and sees the word "attack" or "attacking" can reasonable assume any attack besides just basic or on hit attacks. There is a difference between the word attack vs basic attack or auto attack if you talk in general terms rather than league terms where league now is using the word attack to mean the same as basic and on hit

Jerry SeinfeId10/7/2018, 1:33:45 PM1 votes

sounds like ur just garbage at teemo tbh.

Dark harvest teemo. Is it good? no, but it sure as hell ain't useless. If you decide to play full ap burst teemo it can, depending on how much stacks you get, allow you to AA + Q a squishy to death. AA Q is just basic teemo mechanics honestly.

You shouldn't be 1v2ing a support and adc, you should almost always beat an adc with dark harvest if you're going even and you actually have it up. You blind at 680 range which only 3 adc can reliably outrange 1 of them requiring an ult, the other 1 an ability and the last one a "form change" that causes every aa to cost mana and lowers 1v1 dps. If you're dark harvest teemo i expect you to have burst itemisation and Q max so you should be killing them while they're blinded.

All in all if your champ has a significant reason to auto attack dark harvest is an option and will do it's job, however. this does not mean it's the best option. I've ran DH on lux and i can tell you lux passive + lich bane + dark harvest hits like a truck.

as for clarity, you're really just bamboozling yourself if you tell yourself "GP and Ezreal can use it on an ability that was specifically designed to function like an auto attack? teemo Q must proc it".

TheMonkeyKiing10/7/2018, 12:09:16 PM1 votes

They should at least change press the attack's description saying "hitting an enemy champion 3 consecutive times" and use the work "with 3 attacks" instead since "attack" means basic attack or on-hit.

TheMonkeyKiing10/7/2018, 11:51:48 AM1 votes

replying to solicitude: I will type out what it says for you since you didn't read it in game.

"Champions, large minions, and large monsters drop soul essence on death. Collect souls to become Soul Charged. Your next attack on a champion or structure consumes Soul Charged to deal bonus adaptive damage."

there is no statement of basic attack that you are claiming in the description for dark harvest