List of AP mid laners Riot killed

Conturbatio·Sep 3, 2015·2 votes·912 views

Katarina makes her cry Evolved into a gatling gun from a poison witch Took some aggression pills but somehow ended up more physical Went to the gym Crippled space aids patient Finally mastered the Wuju style It should go where it belongs... In the jungle. Lost some slime (Support changes )) Likes to take showers more often but less effectively. Armor sets can't carry themselves. Went back home, apparently... Can't be good at everything, Janna - That's a job for Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannie Evolved into a warlord. Muted YOU GET HP, AND YOU GET HP, EVERYONE GETS HP (except me). Unbreakable gems are truly truly truly outrageous (Support changes )) Applied for a baseball team.

Honorable mentions: (Not necessarily AP) Crickets don't have huge claws

EDIT: Whole post updated.

21 Comments

Commit SudokuSep 3, 20155 votes

5 of these were arguably even viable when they were played mid, 3 of these were anti-fun when played mid lane and most players where happy to see them go. And wtf is wrong with Cass she seems fine to me.

ConturbatioSep 3, 20152 votes

Ask Cassiopeia mains (no I'm not a main) her rework is boring & after some nerfs, a lot of mid laners stomp her hard.

CalabokSep 3, 20154 votes

Major troll post

powerbatsSep 3, 20153 votes

The qq is strong with this one. You could you know play many of the other champs that work just fine in mid and not complain about not being able to abuse champs in mid lane anymore.

ConturbatioSep 3, 20152 votes

Yeah Janna mid was broken... The final blow Riot has sent to brutally kill her was the CD increase on her W, 12 at all ranks instead of 12/11/10/9/8/7.

They even keep running the nerf train by reducing the range on her Q.

TeemoJenkinsSep 3, 20152 votes

0/10...

ConturbatioSep 3, 20152 votes

No this is not a troll thread.

CindikleSep 3, 20152 votes

Has 1.5/4 abilities

More like 3.5 of 4. Q and R are great. W is important. E is meh.

Garbage rework, Garbage champion

The rework was fine overall. But all they did was turn a lane bully into a lane bully. It was a pointless rework that killed her identity as a poison mage. As a champion currently, she's fine. But it as 100% a waste of time.

Q scaling gutted and E turned into physical damage

I didn't know her too much as a mid lanner. Can't really comment.

Reworked into a boring tanky AP bruiser

He was always intended as an AP bruiser. He was never meant to be a full AP that two shots carries.

Shit damage, Shit mobility

Mobility got buffed. Damage got nerfed. If you can think of a way to balance him without killing off his damage go for it. Spread your thoughts. But in no way should he go back to who he was.

Reworked into an AD Assassin

Still an AD carry. Assassins get in the fight, take out their target, and get out. He just keeps beating on you.

His AP playstyle was really really stupid. Like using Katarina but you can't CC him.

AP Scalings reduced

Justified. One of the tankiest champions in the game that EASILY will top the damage charts.

Q & R ratio reduced, meh pick (Patch 3.14; Support changes ))

Wasn't that reduced because supports got gold generation? Honestly doesn't really count.

Not really a mid champ.

E lost 0.4 total AP ratio

Came with a big buff to mana cost and CD. It was a buff.

He was known for his mid plays? Sure he can go there, but he's was never a mid meta champ.

Reworked into an anti-fun assassin, garbage in mid lane

She's Anti-Fun everywhere. Please don't tell me you think Q spamming all game to deal 90% of a champions health is OK. And it's not like you cannot build her that way. It's still hurts.

AP scalings almost HALVED (Patch 3.14; Support changes ))

Same as Nami. Those scalings assumed you were getting little to no AP.

Although she did have some time as a mid champ. It was short, really really toxic and shouldn't be on this list.. Like facing her in ARAM right now. So much safety and waveclear that there is no countering it. When the support changes started, people took her into mid lane on the PBE with a massive shield and damage.

Her W also rooted at 1k AP because it would turn into a 100% slow.

Reworked into an AD tank

Please don't tell me you thought his kit was fine before....

Garbage base damage, Garbage AP scalings [E gains 1% movement speed per lvl, LOLOLOLOL] (Patch 3.14; Support changes ))

E's power is based on her R. I'd rather see her E gain more per rank and less from R. But I can understand it. Her kit as a whole needs to be rethought up. Make her aura her passive instead. Since they can't seem to balance it without making her a pain to play anywhere but ARMA.

Like Janna. Saw some mid time, but really shouldn't be on the list.

Reworked into an even more annoying support, garbage in mid lane

Another short time mid meta support with horribly toxic gameplay in that roll. Shouldn't be on this list.

AP Scalings changed into armor scalings, totally garbage in mid lane (Patch 3.14; Support changes ))

Sigh Another support. Getting a rework also.

His only source of damage turned into a clunky easily dodgeable skillshot, garbage in mid lane, but good as a support.

This one I can agree on. He did need the change. But I don't find him enjoyable to play at all.

There you go, 16 AP mid picks were destroyed from Season 3 till now. Yeah, I know some champions like Master Yi can still be played in Mid and do great, that's why I specified "AP Mid laners".

Overall you mostly listed champions that were being played out of their roll(tank, adc, support, bruiser) when they built AP and were out preforming champions who could only build AP.

Honorable mentions: I don't even know....

Neither does Riot on that one... gets changed every season. Assassin S3 Tank S4 I think he was a bruiser for a while. Back to assassin now?

Also... when was he AP?

powerbatsSep 3, 20151 votes

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Neither does Riot on that one... gets changed every season. Assassin S3 Tank S4 I think he was a bruiser for a while. Back to assassin now?

Also... when was he AP?

Around the same time as Rengar was when people figured out he was broken as heck they figured Khazix would work the same, short but brief fling.

ConturbatioSep 4, 20151 votes

Did you even read my "EDIT"? Btw, in Nami's champion spotlight, Riot specified that she could either play a solo lane or support. Also, a blink with 500 range that costs double mana on each consecutive cast, is garbage, and his base damage on Q-E is 170-180, like wtf. I mean since it costs a lot of mana, deals little to no damage, and since he already has low base damage, its range should've remained 700. AP Janna was far from toxic, just because she's annoying in ARAM (like any other champion with shields/heals) doesn't mean she's toxic. Also, I added "Kha'Zix" to the "Honorable mentions" list because he wasn't an AP carry, just an AD mid laner in season 3.

Ok just to remind you again, that I did indeed agree on some changes like the gragas, master yi reworks because they were really anti-fun to play against.

CindikleSep 4, 20151 votes

There was no edit when I started typing that. I didn't delete anything you typed, just put spaces between them.

AP Janna was really toxic. Her Q would charge up to massive damage, followed by W and a lichbane AA. Topped off with a massive shield that would give her a good bit of AD to continue to AA you. You can't engage her because she'd just R you away. With CDR her Q was constantly up if her R wasn't enough. Assuming you could break that shield anyway.

She basically went mid. And forced the enemy to stay there. Jungle couldn't do much if she had R. Chances are they would lose farm to tower, since they'd almost always be there.

I compared her to how she is in ARAM because she builds full AP there(usually). After he damage nerfs she can't really out damage a lot of mid lanners anymore. Even with her shield she still has a good chance to lose the trade. She's still very safe, but she doesn't bring much else to the team. Although it was mostly a soloQ thing.

I assumed you put up Kha'Zix because his equally played in top and mid lane when he was mid lane. I think a little jungle too, but not at the pro level.

ConturbatioSep 4, 20151 votes

I typed the EDIT when I saw a lot of comments telling me how some of these picks were extremely anti-fun, I didn't even say "Riot shouldn't have killed them" so I had to specify that some of the changes were fair. I guess I was EDITing my post the same time you were replying.

Anyways, AP Janna was fun to play(with), at least before Riot added 5 seconds to her W's cd. I owned a lot of Akali/Ahri players in season 3 & 4, and even the jungler couldn't gank me. Well, I never played against one, and according to her mid lane gameplay I think you're right.

And yes, I added Kha'Zix because he was played mid/top in season 3 until he got nerfed hard, he barely sees any pro level play.