Urgot is Not a Juggernaught

Bonipherus·3/28/2018, 4:51:34 PM·1 votes·657 views

Urgot is in no way a Juggernaught and should not be treated as such without serious kit alterations. He does not deserve a juggernaught's level of damage output and access to their items when he has none of their weaknesses.

What is a juggernaught? Juggernaughts have very low mobility, melee range auto attacks, tons of damage, good survivability, and no hard cc.

Juggernaughts do tend to break some of these rules to a degree but they give up a lot in exchange for breaking these rules by being worse in other categories.

Shyvana is considered a juggernaught by riot whose ultimate allows her to break the mold by giving her a gap closer. Shyvanna has the least amount of innate survivability out of any juggernaught without any natural shields or heals and requiring multiple dragon kills to attain a meaningful amount of armor/mr.

Illaoi is a juggernaught who has absolutely zero cc. She fits the juggernaught definition to a T and doesn't break any mold. Illaoi does still have a complete lack of cc which means in exchange she can turn her natural level of Juggernaught damage to an absurd degree.

Darius is the poster boy for the strongest juggernaught in the game. Unlike other juggernaughts, Darius actually does have some hard cc but he has to pay a price though... he has no mobility at all... not even a speed boost like Garen or DrMundo. His pull is irreducible cc that displaces an enemy and it's one of the strongest forms of cc in the game if not the strongest.

So now let's look at Urgot

Higher aa range than any juggernaught or melee champion in the game.

More mobility than any juggernaught by far and more than even a lot of bruisers.

A ranged aoe ability that slows.

An on-demand shield for increased tankiness.

Irreducible displacing cc that ranks among the strongest in the game. It also stuns.

Urgot lacks the inherent weaknesses of juggernaughts without paying any price in his kit and so people should not expect him to be given special treatment through use of juggernaught items and their levels of damage. If people want Urgot to be a ranged juggernaught who still gets full effectiveness from item 3071 item 3053 and item 3022 then start by choosing where to gut other parts of his kit in exchange.

19 Comments

Rayjay Redfang3/28/2018, 5:04:22 PM3 votes

He is a juggernaut.

He really isn't mobile(illaoi has a dash btw that has a shorter delay), his aa range is still incredibly low, he does everything you said a juggernaut should, and why shouldn't his hard cc be an exception too.

Míellá3/28/2018, 5:02:50 PM2 votes

Higher aa range than any juggernaught or melee champion in the game.

I didn't know that Urgot is mobile or has a high range. His W even has to make him get close to an enemy to deal any damage,

A ranged aoe ability that slows.

Guess who has 3 ranged abilities, of which 2 are AOE and 1 is a slow, that can deal you damage from a distance : Illaoi

Irreducible displacing cc that ranks among the strongest in the game. It also stuns.

Its not, its incredibly cluncky and I don't even understand where u got the fact from.

Now, lets get to something else. Who even calls Urgot a juggernaut. As much as I know, he's a bruiser.

EDIT: even Shyvana and DrMundo have a ranged slow with high damage.

Critmaster Garen3/28/2018, 5:49:07 PM2 votes

the thing with urgot is, that while he technically has ranged auto attacks, his kit is designed in a way, that he still wants to fight you in melee range.

the closer you are to your target, the faster you can circle it. this is even more important since his w makes him slow himself.

its quite smart design actually.