Fiora

Marshmallow Wolf·Apr 19, 2015·2 votes·876 views

Im not the first, I wont be the last. I believe Fiora is the only incredibly broken champ in league.

Leblanc is easy to kill once she runs out of mana, and on top of being mana hungry she cant farm. Kat got nerfed ( a little ) and is more squishy and I've found her much easier to deal with. Get riven on q cooldown and she is dead (to me anyway).

But fiora can literally 1v5 once she gets 1 item. Hydra. I think even fed champs at 25% health should be killable. Fiora actually gains health once she is done with one champ full on assaulting her.

I think a surprise attack with 4 people when she is at 25% health should be enough to take her down Nope.

Ps: For now, how do I play against Fiora?

14 Comments

DeloricVIApr 19, 20152 votes

Fiora is not the biggest of your top lane problems.

That title belongs to Teemo ~~Satan~~ Teemo.

But in all reality, Fiora cannot take any punishment. Go up top with Sion; you'll change your tune if you know what you're doing. Fiora may deal tons of damage, but she has no cc at all. She has her parry/counter, she has a small dash thing, but she can't stop you from just walking away. If you stand back, she can't get to you. She can dash twice, but from there she has to kill you if you fight her. There is no middle ground. Unless flash is up, she just also burnt her only escape going in. So if you're playing a champion like Sion, you put up your shield while she starts chipping away at it, you charge your q. Not to mention that, if she gets her AD high enough, she can near-kill herself by ulting you. I did that once; had like 6000 HP, thornmail, randuin's omen, warmog's armor... She ulted and took a ton of damage. I didn't take much at all by comparison. Even if she builds black cleaver, that doesn't help her survivability a whole lot, and when you have all of those items and then some, it's like trying to knock down a brick wall covered in 2 feet of ice in the freezing cold with only a shovel.

Why else do you think you don't see Fiora so much in higher elos? She has a horrible reputation for getting caught out and dying, because she's a 1-way champion; one way in, one way out.

Oh yeah, speaking of Teemo, if you want to see something hilarious, pick Teemo into Fiora; see what happens when you use Zhonia's on her ult; it's hilarious.

MalzaharAnyLaneApr 19, 20151 votes

Good Fioras farm Teemo by warding for ganks and dodging Teemo shrooms with their ults.

Good Teemos don't try to win the lane against Fiora, they sit back, farm, and hold on to their blindness dart. Every other opponent that isn't Fiora they try to harass with the blind, Fiora can and will punish every time the blind is on CD during lane phase.

That being said, you are correct, if Sion or Cho'gath is in the lane then it's in Fiora's best interest to roam and take control of dragon until the tank gets bored split pushing or is forced to teleport, rather than smacking her face on the brick wall over and over.

A Fiora with Hydra, BOTRK, BT, Black Cleaver and LW is going to laugh at that itemization, but then, if you let her get that fed and you're also fed enough to have that itemization then the game has gone on for so long that really no one can be considered to have won or lost.

DeloricVIApr 19, 20151 votes

Considering the OP isn't above Bronze (otherwise, I'm pretty sure he'd have an icon of some kind when you highlight his summoner name? I'm pretty sure Silver and up have an icon...) he's probably not dealing with a good Fiora. She just looks good because she's not being counterplayed. Half of the ones in bronze soloqueue are the ones that make her infamous for being easy to catch out. If the player is very unskilled, they won't ward at all. If they're only kinda unskilled, they do ward, but they never check their map, or not often enough and usually end up ganked.

My post mainly applies to any top with hard cc. She's not like Tryndamere that can just spin for days and dance out the way of all the Sion q's and Cho knock ups. When it comes to itemization, she can get scary if you let her get out of control and build all her items, but Thornmail is the bane of Fiora's existence, because that's reflecting pretty much anything she can do to you back at her face. In the meantime, it ought to do, along with any other big health/armor items, Randuin's omen will make you especially hard to deal with, but if she insist on going for it, Sunfire cape would probably be better; not as much defense, but with thornmail combined with the DoT, she'll probably have to back off before doing any serious damage to you (since you're also hitting her as well, presumably).

ZmuecatApr 19, 20151 votes

Out CS her and zone her out of CS. Build armor. If she's getting fed, tell your team to build armor. Take exhaust and learn to time when she's about to go and use her ult to lower her damage output, or take ignite and use it to lower her life steal during the ult (not 100% on the ignite part).

Then, of course, there's always the "Hard CC her to death" option that works on anyone know layered in 5 tank items.

I really can only tell you what to do from a supports perspective, and if she's fed I just time exhaust or simply try to land a CC on her before she can do anything.

Marshmallow WolfApr 19, 20151 votes

But what if i'm not carrying exhaust/ have cc as a midlaner or jg?

MalzaharAnyLaneApr 19, 20151 votes

Sounds like you lost the game at champ select then. Believe it or not this is a thing that can happen despite Riot's best efforts to let you itemize against a champ select loss.

MalzaharAnyLaneApr 19, 20151 votes

Should probably finish nerfing Lee Sin, properly nerfing Nidalee and properly Olafing Riven before complaining about Fiora.

Marshmallow WolfApr 19, 20151 votes

Really can't complain about Nid, because i'm usually good about dodging skill shots. Riven isnt too bad except for that shield that scales off of ad.

MalzaharAnyLaneApr 19, 20151 votes

Riven's teamfight is too good, for the mobility that she has. Her laning is mediocre.

Fiora hard counters every single one of Nidalee's builds so I'm not interested in seeing Fiora nerfed before Lee Sin eats a crippling nerf like Veigar's stuncage change.

Irelia still has a two second stun just for letting people hit her first mind you, at which point she heals to full again after stunning you and killing you in the process.

If you want to counter Fiora, play Irelia or get better at someone who is tanky.

MistikalApr 19, 20151 votes

theres these crazy armor item called thorn mail, forzen heart and randuins omen that dumpster a fiora.

or you know... play jax.

MalzaharAnyLaneApr 19, 20151 votes

Good Fioras still farm Jaxes.

Fiora is OP, yes. But there are numerous other characters that are far more of an issue than a pubstomper DPSer.

kokopelli2Apr 19, 20151 votes

Olaf>Fiora ina 1v1

MalzaharAnyLaneApr 19, 20151 votes

Even if this were true (if she's good she's taking exhaust/ignite into you and using it when your ult is down) Olaf is even more feast or famine than Fiora is, you are going to kill her and still not be able to kill anyone else on the map if they have a gold lead over you.