Can taliyah get a second passive?

Marshmallow Wolf·5/5/2018, 7:11:07 PM·44 votes·14,452 views

It's probably one of the worst in the game. Aurelion Has it on his E and he doesn't have to be near walls. a few champions come to mind with two passives on their passive, so why can't taliyah have two? She just something to help her kit out or something.

Diana = Mana return+ Damage and Attackspeed Katarina = Daggers landing + resets Yasuo = Double Crit + free Shield Darius = Hemorrhage and Noxian Might

And a ton of others.

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Mordius5/5/2018, 7:13:55 PM32 votes

Yasuo = Double Crit + free Shield

Vid the Strange5/5/2018, 7:34:09 PM27 votes

Ornn

  • Can buy non-consumable items anywhere while out of combat.
  • He and his teammates have access to upgraded items with enhanced stats.
  • His basic attacks knock back Brittle enemies.
  • Brittle enemies take % max HP magic damage when immobilized by him or one of his allies.

That's literally 3 or 4 passives depending on how you look at it, and NONE of them have drawbacks.

Ifneth5/5/2018, 10:56:42 PM25 votes

Her passive is pretty amazing as-is. 20-40% movement speed near walls is a lot. It

  1. Gives you mid priority even if the wave is at your turret.

  2. Cuts a lot of time out of roaming to use your wall and coming back to lane.

  3. Gets you around the map fast with no wall.

She also has another passive, which is her Worked Ground, which gives her 10% bonus movement speed. This helps her:

  1. Dodge skillshots and escape ganks without boots

  2. Chase, kite, juke, and match jukes when firing her Q.

  3. Interact with Rylai’s to make her a kiting machine.

Arcane Blue Boi5/5/2018, 8:48:51 PM10 votes

taliyah: i can surf on wall Yasuo: hold my beer

koshkyra5/5/2018, 7:34:17 PM10 votes

Brand burn + aoe explode Corki package + magic damage Janna ms + auto dmg + ghost Kaisa 4hit + ability evolve Evelynn camo + regen probably others but idk these are just off the top of my head

Taliyah passive ideas:

  • she does bonus damage while near HER wall or ally-created structures (ex: anivia, yorick) (not the normal walls)
  • hitting an enemy with all her q shots, or at least 3 of her E rocks refunds 4% of her mana and 1 second of the ability's cd
Toxicate135/5/2018, 7:15:13 PM6 votes

Darius = Hemorrhage and Noxian Might (bleed and 5 stacks = ad and broken)

inplane5/5/2018, 7:55:57 PM5 votes

Personally, I would want more interaction with her E and W rather than more passives. They feel so barebones and underwhelming as zoning tools against anyone with the slightest bit of MR and mobility. Maybe her W can act like Vayne's E. Knocking someone into a wall will briefly stun them. For her E minefield, maybe the exploding rocks can act like Poppy's W. Enemies who trigger more than 2 rocks will be slightly knocked.

DMate195/6/2018, 12:52:54 AM4 votes

Some champions have there strengths in abilities, others in passives. Sometimes a strong passive is needed for a good kit, Taliyah does not need one

HP Crookshanks5/6/2018, 8:30:34 AM4 votes

Worst passive is Ahri 's. That ms is not even noticeable.

GrReaper965/6/2018, 1:21:51 AM3 votes

Lissandra

Votable Jester5/6/2018, 4:22:16 AM2 votes

She has enough in the rest of her kit, there's no reason to add stuff to her (would need to nerf other parts of her). Plus it does help her roam and help out her jungler a lot.

SeaChange5/6/2018, 3:29:38 AM2 votes

WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. You shouldn't play taliyah if you don't like her passive. She's really strong and the cutest midlaner so no.

Windi5/5/2018, 9:08:56 PM2 votes

can they make it not wall-reliant I get that it's unique or whatever but all it does is make me path like a memer and punishes me for evaluating if I should commit or not by swinging my camera towards the area I'm goin to.

Saianna5/6/2018, 9:25:50 PM1 votes

Yasuo has another passive. Some armor pen after R'ing, doesn't he?

Kitten of Evil5/6/2018, 11:48:59 PM1 votes

Karma : 2 passives? I barely have 1.

Aatrox Eichmann5/7/2018, 12:58:37 AM1 votes

Diana = Mana return+ Damage and Attackspeed Katarina = Daggers landing + resets Darius = Hemorrhage and Noxian Might well some champs are weaker in lane because they farm with melee basic attacks

Yasuo = Double Crit + free Shield but this is still inexcusable.

Moonshade5/7/2018, 7:00:32 AM1 votes

Passive idea for Taliyah, Earth Mother's Thread: landing 3 instances of spell damage against an enemy champion slows the target by X % and restores 15% of Taliyah's max mana

Ionian Vulpix5/6/2018, 2:22:38 AM1 votes

Can Twitch get a passive?

Ok sure but why5/6/2018, 3:34:00 AM1 votes

Her ult should cut through terrain and create paths for her teammates. That would be cool.

Support Position5/6/2018, 7:37:54 AM1 votes

Or just not out of combat movement speed. Let her have the goddamn movement in combat. Like holy ducks.

Captainn Ginyu5/6/2018, 7:45:16 AM1 votes

wait diana has mana return? on what?

Autrah Fang5/6/2018, 9:24:07 AM1 votes

technically her Q worked ground counts as a "second passive," but i still agree with you... it seems like there needs to be some kind of passive on her ult at the very least. considering it's a non-damage ult...

Wolfeur5/6/2018, 10:46:39 AM1 votes

Aurelion Has it on his E and he doesn't have to be near walls.

You do remember Taliyah's ult, don't you?

iDarkWind5/6/2018, 1:01:10 PM1 votes

Are you serious only comparing the passives of different champion and use it as justification? That not only doesn't make sense, but it also makes it the stupidiest argument i've ever seen. When comparing champions, please, consider their entire kit.

Snowman Arc5/6/2018, 4:31:41 PM1 votes

First of all, Taliyah is fine. Currently, one of the most balanced champions, she doesn't need anything else. Secondly, there are just few champions with 2 passives. Most champions have just 1, so I don't see why she should have two as well. Third, just because some champions has double passives, doesn't mean a champion with one is weaker or unfairly treated. They have power somewhere else in their kit.

Murl0ugh5/6/2018, 4:51:04 PM1 votes

Yeah, um, the whole "Aurelion gets her passive without being near walls" thing is horseshit. Don't exclude information purposefully.

Aurelion gets bonus movement as long as he moves in one single direction thats way less useful than wall ms.

Otherwise I agree that Taliyah could use something new.

invisiblecat15/6/2018, 6:33:26 PM1 votes

I thought Riot learned their lesson from Miss Fortune that movement speed passives are useless Apparently they haven't

Fighter Ignite15/6/2018, 7:01:43 PM1 votes

When I think double passive, I think bard. And while it is not a huge part of it, it literally says it in the champion spotlight, too.

Killzord5/6/2018, 7:07:16 PM1 votes

Be neat if while surfing on her rock her next auto hurls it for bonus dmg. Only of she is riding it when she can AA