Is the new coin item bad?

Linna Excel··2 votes·709 views

Both Soraka and Janna's win rates have dropped with the new changes. Early results suggest yes.

My biggest problem with it is the minigame. That is something that would be much more viable on a tank who is beefy enough to go and grab the pick up. On your two squishy supports, one who is completely immobile and hurts herself to heal, getting the pick up is a big risk and in upper elos, is punishable if you can't zone the other team off of the pickup.

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Mysticman892 votes

Most of the top Jannas have switched to the frost line (although to be fair, some were using it before), so thats probably a sign the coin line needs some buffs.

My proposed tweak would be giving some health on (at least) one of the pickups, to help mitigate some of the inevitable harass these typically squishy champs would take when collecting their coins. Not enough that they can just ignore the harassment of course, but it'd make the risk/reward tradeoff a bit better.

Linna Excel1 votes

Yes, some method of getting health back seems reasonable.

ForgottenLuck2 votes

I suggest going item 3303 , the MS is so good on Soraka and I bet it would be good on Janna as well. The new coin I feel is not good.

Mizuki Zahra2 votes

it makes playing thresh fun lol soooo much to collect

Dreampod1 votes

Do you ever throw your lantern to collect coins and then smack yourself in the face for being an idiot since you are so used to collecting souls with it?

I'm asking for a friend.

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

a thresh main friend of mine does it all the time and actually I try to collect the ghost coins too when enemies also have coin. there needs to be Mario skins now lol

Lucky Moniker2 votes

Rakan got fucked over with the changes. Went from A tier to C tier imo

MysterQ1 votes

Get in that melee range to collect that mana.

Dreampod1 votes

Not sure if it is bad in general or just in comparison to the other two that got good improvements from the quests and coin got the weakest quest benefit and riskier to use. Getting a skill up on a secondary priority ability after laning phase for an extra 30 healing or shielding just doesn't compare to 250 recharging health or even the speed proc to help land CC or get away.

Ahristocats1 votes

Yes

MysterQ1 votes

Do you think +10% CDR cap as the quest reward would be fair?

At some point, too much CDR doesn't gain you much. But I can't think of many other rewards to chase for. Now every item has CDR on it, so going above cap is very easy. 10% CDR has nothing to do with playing passive. But more CDR on enchanters means more enchants/heals on the team, if even just slightly.

Or maybe you think the quest is fine. Or have a better quest idea.

Ahristocats2 votes

every high elo janna stopped building it, maybe it's because of the passive that is hard to get against things like zyra or lulu

or maybe because it doesn't offer sustain anymore (combined with the thing above it's insanely weak), that is why i don't build it

i have no idea why the removed the sustain from coin passive, relic shield still gives sustain , and spellthief edge is bought on long range poke my idea is to bring back the sustain

Linna Excel1 votes

or maybe because it doesn't offer sustain anymore (combined with the thing above it's insanely weak), that is why i don't build it

As someone who plays soraka a lot when I support, this part bothers me the most.

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