Its Sabre and devourer giving his ultimate WAAAY too much damage too early in the game where players can not build sash or they will risk falling behind
The solution is simple Change Sabre damage to bonus ad damage based on your base ad to ALL smited targets including jungle mobs(since mostly ad junglers will buy it and its a early game item) and reduce amount of bonus damage given by stacks for devourer
Killer X 122 votesThe issue is WW. You have champions, many of them, that are not a problem in the jungle. You add new items. A SINGLE champion becomes a problem. Should you change the item, or fix the ONE champion? Well since there are over 100 champs in game, and technically any single one can use the item, but only one of them can really abuse it....you see what i'm saying.
It doesn't make sense to change then item which might cause more issues (Of course the WW issue was not intentional, the same thing could happen once you change the item again) somewhere else when you can just change WW and fix the problem all together.
AtheosisX2 votesCool story, but first the items are too good on more than just Warwick. He's just the most glaring example. And second they have already put out nerfs on the PBE for Devourer and Challenging Smite.
Killer X 121 votesI saw the PBE changes, that doesn't change that the issue is WW, not the item. If it was the item the other champs besides WW would of jumped up to 59-60 percent win rates in Gold ranked and above.
Hibeki2 votesWarwick isn't the only problem, any on hit junglers can abuse the shit out of this item.
including auto attack based ones.
Killer X 121 votesYet they don't, and WW does... Even Godyr isn't running into my lane and 100-0 me before i can do anything with this item. Yi isnt, lee isn't, Diana isn't, Skarner isn't, etc.
Part of the reason why it is WW and not the item is not JUST that WW can kill you whenver he feels like it until you get 1550 EXTRA gold to deal with him. It is also that he is a sustain jungle. This means he can pick a champion smite over the rangers without losing too much on his clear. Other auto attack reliant junglers have to take that choice more seriously, and for many the Rangers is a better choice because of the sustain. Sure, you can nerf the jungle item...but its already not good for most jungles. They can't give it more sustain without really trashing the damage on it and making it shit. SO, seems like the smartest option for fixing this issue is either change the item so that it does not interact with WW's ult (the same way it does now) or change WW. He needs a rework anyway.
Blueharlequin1 votesOr check the PBE and see that patch 4.21 they've confirmed a nerf to sabre and devourer.
Nausicäa 1 votesNah its WW sorry.
His ult simply does way too much damage considering its also a suppression.
