easier than yi? check More true damage than vayne and darius? check as durable as the average bruiser while being a melee carry? check more mobile than the average assassin? check More healing than the average support? check wins more lane matchups than hiemerdinger and darius? check no counter in lane? check
honestly just undo the rework new fiora is in a even worse spot balance wise than old fiora.
TeemoJenkins11 votesMassive list of opinions based on zero facts? Check
Gigahappytown3 votesMassive list of opinions based on zero facts? Check
darius is reliant on his passive and ult to do anything late game morde is reliant on teammates garen is only effective against the villain
what exactly is fiora reliant on? oh right nothing
Crett3 votesWell technically, she does rely on her passive to deal damage. Not that it's difficult for her to abuse it with the low CD dash, refreshing MS boosts and two slows
Sasogwa2 votesdarius is reliant on his passive and ult to do anything late game morde is reliant on teammates garen is only effective against the villain
what exactly is fiora reliant on? oh right nothing
Being into melee and hoping everyone burns all of their CC stupidly while she enters Riposte.
redniwediS4 votesgaren is only effective against the villain
No.
Weiner the Pooh5 votesI'm sorry but yi is so much easier than Fiora, like seriously yi presses r q then right clicks team to death. Fiora at least requires positioning and her passive is extremely telegraphed showing both parties where it will be.
Gigahappytown1 votes[{quoted}](name=Da Dwagonswayer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ia1GpElw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-25T17:15:42.173+0000)
I'm sorry but yi is so much easier than Fiora, like seriously yi presses r q then right clicks team to death. Fiora at least requires positioning and her passive is extremely telegraphed showing both parties where it will be.
Its funny because that was the basis for old fiora and new fiora is more or less the same q to enemy press r and e and instakill them with aa reset then aa the rest while you heal
Weiner the Pooh1 votesIts funny because that was the basis for old fiora and new fiora is more or less the same q to enemy press r and e and instakill them with aa reset then aa the rest while you heal
If new Fiora is more or less the same as old Fiora, and you're saying to just undo the rework, would it change anything?
Gigahappytown1 votes[{quoted}](name=Da Dwagonswayer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ia1GpElw,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2015-09-25T19:50:04.892+0000)
If new Fiora is more or less the same as old Fiora, and you're saying to just undo the rework, would it change anything?
the difference is while old fiora was ebolaids she wasn't a common pick and actually fell behind if she lost lane.
Weiner the Pooh1 votesthe difference is while old fiora was ebolaids she wasn't a common pick and actually fell behind if she lost lane.
It's actually funny because, pre rework everyone cried for a rework then post rework everyone cries for it to be reverted.
Gigahappytown1 votes[{quoted}](name=Da Dwagonswayer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ia1GpElw,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-25T20:15:37.102+0000)
It's actually funny because, pre rework everyone cried for a rework then post rework everyone cries for it to be reverted.
Because no one would know that the rework would be so bad.
Weiner the Pooh1 votesBecause no one would know that the rework would be so bad.
Might want to watch your word choice, her rework is anything but bad-- op? A bit. Toxic? Eh, kinda but which champ isn't. But it's a lot of fun, it increased her skill floor and skill cap, gives so much potential for spicy plays and has quite a bit of counterplay. (Also a Metallica song fits this situation perfectly, but that's a different not)
Bronzoid1 votes[{quoted}](name=Da Dwagonswayer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ia1GpElw,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-25T20:15:37.102+0000)
It's actually funny because, pre rework everyone cried for a rework then post rework everyone cries for it to be reverted.
She was broken pre-rework and is now more broken post-rework.
Bard in a Diaper4 voteslolwat at no lane counters? She's really weak in lane. Problem is she has a huge power spike at 4 items that is very hard to stop, similar to adcs in that regard.
So yea if your games are going really long consistently then fiora is really strong. As a result we might see her at worlds since games tend to go long there if somewhat evenly matched.
but shes very beatable in lane. Darius, trundle, nasus, irelia, riven as a skill MU, tryndamere DESTROYS her
off the top of my head
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Jbels2 votesif she block's a Darius's ult with her Riposte, I suppose that makes her...smarter than the average Dar?
Kitten of Evil2 votesOh come on, you should have at least gone for the obvious "blocks Tibbers with Riposte" bear reference.
Jbels2 votes[{quoted}](name=Kitten of Evil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ia1GpElw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-09-25T17:17:06.444+0000)
Oh come on, you should have at least gone for the obvious "blocks Tibbers with Riposte" bear reference.
;w;
kJs2 votesFiora has easy counters. You pick high sustain champs + Flask and health pot and don't let her snowball lane. If she doesn't get one or two kills in lane she isn't going to be much of a problem. Not saying she'll be easy to kill but she can't snowball past lane phase as other champions can like Riven, Yasuo etc.
But she's still a pain to deal with.
Kitten of Evil1 votesI'm not sure why her Riposte is allowed to block all CC, damage, abilities, and summoner spells from all sources for 0.75 seconds, whether or not she's facing the source. Sivir and Noc get to block ONE thing; Fizz E, while trolly, does not avoid leashes or DoTs and also costs a lot of mana; Vlad pool costs 20% of his current health and he isn't exactly an example of a well-designed kit.
Also her passive needs a cooldown longer than 0.5 seconds.
Kaelnor1 votesI don't know what you were smoking, but I'm at lvl 4 mastery with 
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Learn to play counters, and learn to play with or against . QQ threads are so whack.