The big fail i notice about devourer

Knight SoIaire ·Aug 17, 2015·3 votes·662 views

And i think that this fail makes it so that every thread about its balance has no right of existing

Counterjungling is barely existant thats a direct counter to devourer ... and it doesnt exist

People are angry about this items existance because in fact ... it has really low counterplay the only counterplay is in fact for the jungler to fail at his job at some point and fall off

most of the time you dont see enemy jungler until he decides to show himself ... and even funnier ... attempting counterjungle means that you are at a disadvantage because you do the right thing

9 Comments

dangopeeAug 17, 20151 votes

Yeah counterjungling is much riskier now because the camps 2 shot you early and there's more free non ward based vision available.

Knight SoIaire Aug 17, 20151 votes

and there is also more free ward based vision available ... just a note

Linna ExcelAug 17, 20151 votes

Well, the two main devourer users are Yi (he can be countered earlier and is weak against CC), and Shyvana (something of a duelist). IMO devourer isn't a problem and here's why: your team has 30 minutes to decide the game before the sated jungler can have much impact. If you can't win a 5v4 in 30 minutes while their jungler is AFK farming, it's not their jungler's fault your team lost.

Knight SoIaire Aug 17, 20152 votes

i dont know what kind of sated junglers are you playing against

since i see them trying to get stacks of kills and then off those kills they try to get dragons and crabs ... that can be extreme amount of stacks in a short time

Linna ExcelAug 17, 20151 votes

If junglers are getting "stacks of kills" that would suggest your team isn't warding properly, are probably too pushed up, and your jungler isn't counter-ganking as he should.

Knight SoIaire Aug 17, 20151 votes

ganks happen ... no wards will prevent it

thats just how the game is your jungelr cant always counter gank ... in fact counter ganks are rare mainly becuase your jungler cant waste time chasing the enemy jungler

overall itsquite normal for the devourer jungler to have a good map presence and map pressure

Cenobite AzazielAug 17, 20151 votes

Sooo.. playing a 4x5 game for 20 minutes isn't enough counterplay? Giving the laner the potential snowball isn't good enough? If you are counter ganked by a devourer jungler ("I dived the turret and he killed me and the mid laner got away"), you are playing pretty badly.

Knight SoIaire Aug 17, 20151 votes

depends on the player ... some indeed just leave you for a 4v5 and then find it weird thatthey cant do shit

but there are some good devourer junglers ... who will do whatever they can to get the most gold and stacks they can

they usually gank when opportunity arises ... still less than others but they do since its gold but when they need stacks they go for dragon ... but first they kill the botlane to be sure they will get it

ovberall when you find such a guy ... you are out of options and the counterjungler is what could solve the problem

Cenobite AzazielAug 17, 20151 votes

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depends on the player ... some indeed just leave you for a 4v5 and then find it weird thatthey cant do shit

but there are some good devourer junglers ... who will do whatever they can to get the most gold and stacks they can

they usually gank when opportunity arises ... still less than others but they do since its gold but when they need stacks they go for dragon ... but first they kill the botlane to be sure they will get it

ovberall when you find such a guy ... you are out of options and the counterjungler is what could solve the problem

If you die to a gank from a devourer jungler in the early game, you over commited/pushed the lane without vision. Playing the game vs a gank jungler would just crush your lane. Again, you just described that your bot lane gave a kill in a 4x5 game after 7~~8 minutes ( that's the time that the devourer gets it). Kudos to your bot lane that lost the lane alone. In a good game you will get dragon early, before 7~~8 minutes. Add up to that, ganking junglers generally have better mobility and can try to steal the dragon. IF a kayle steals the dragon by flashing into the dragons pit, your game was already lost since the begining.

The biggest weak point for a devourer jungler is their laners. If the laner got hard countered, you'll probably lose. IF the laners got carried away and got ganked by the jungler or dived because they got into bad trades or just couldn't let the laners crush the 1 st tower and in the processes gave them a kill AND a tower, you'll probably lose.