To Riot From Evelynn: "Why do you hate me?"

DynamiteGazelle·Jul 11, 2015·38 votes·2,140 views

Finally sees a good amount of play. Decent but not overwhelming. Modest winrate.

Riot - Not on my watch..

Nerf

41 Comments

mirAcIeJul 11, 20156 votes

Not allowed.

Source: I play Evelynn since 2011.

Heckin SupportJul 11, 20156 votes

It's because she's having an identity crisis. People can play her as an assassin, tank, and bruiser depending on how they build. It's like elise. If they buff one thing too much or tweak some numbers one role will outshine the others even though thats now how she is meant to be played. She is meant to be an assassin but she's always built sort of tanky because late game she just blows up.

OhthePiplupJul 11, 201514 votes

yet current master yi can build sated devourer, botrk, and either lw or ie, then build full tank.

still do fuck tons, but be super tanky

I Miss CannonJul 11, 20157 votes

you deserve to lose if you don't abuse the fact the game is a 5v4 for 20 minutes, even more if you take every scuttle and counterjungle occasionally

Only Play DariusJul 11, 20153 votes

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you deserve to lose if you don't abuse the fact the game is a 5v4 for 20 minutes

This is exactly how I respond to Nasus QQ threads.

MasterYi may have the most efficient jungle clears in the game, but his early ganks are utter shit and he is trash if his team falls behind, which happens more often than not since he doesn't gank much.

HawkefireJul 12, 20155 votes

Uhm. Nasus is a bit of a different beast than Yi. While it may be a 5v4, but I think that comparison is a bit unequal in terms of the way the champions work.

Yi afk farms the jungle, Nasus afk farms a lane.

The jungle has no turrets, but does have dragons (contestable during his period of afk) and baron (generally untouchable until after sated). Whereas the lane most has turrets and inhibitors (which are contestable pretty much the entire game). One you actually can ignore because you can take his primary objectives (turrets), the other you cannot ecause he will win the game (because he literally destroyed your base).

Only Play DariusJul 12, 20151 votes

Which is why they buffed dragon to the point that Yi can't solo it anymore. I don't care what you say, Yi can farm all he wants but those objectives are still going to get stolen by the enemy team.

HawkefireJul 12, 20151 votes

Actually that is my point. I was saying that Nasus is a bigger threat than Yi because Nasus actually contests noticeable objectives xD

Only Play DariusJul 12, 20151 votes

My bad nvm

Zair UmbrasJul 12, 20151 votes

Yi can in fact solo dragon very easily with devourer and a Vamp scepter, sometimes with only the devourer since you can just Q the dragon's shot, time your W to negate a lot of that damage too... Yeeaah.

TotalJerkJul 12, 20151 votes

How many item slots do you think we have? You don't build "full tank" with half your items dedicated to damage. Also, BotRK and IE are expensive items. On a jungler budget that means he wont be buying tanky items until well into the game.

IcyPepperJul 12, 20151 votes

Wouldn't that be a bruiser build anyway? Half offense, half defense?

Only Play DariusJul 11, 20155 votes

Yea, they finally got her to the ideal 50% winrate. Even though she isn't played or built like an assassin at all now, she's some weird AD tank despite specifically being tagged as an assassin/mage.

Now it's back to trash tier.

LionelLeonJul 12, 20151 votes

Elise used to be an assassin, until they made her a stun bot that build guise, abbysal, sorc shoes then tanky. Elise needs love badly

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 11, 20152 votes

She got runeglaive which was a huge buff, so they need to balance it.

DynamiteGazelleJul 11, 201513 votes

Evelynn doesn't usually stack AP in all the most used builds so it's really not that great on her. Especially since they're nerfing the item.....because ezreal was op with it? lol

I Miss CannonJul 11, 20151 votes

try runeglaive + ludens echo + maybe void staff and rest tank. but runeglaive will be trash in the next patch anyways.

Shac NorrisJul 12, 20151 votes

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Evelynn doesn't usually stack AP in all the most used builds so it's really not that great on her. Especially since they're nerfing the item.....because ezreal was op with it? lol

She used to be able to stack ap, she would be squishy, but would be seen as an assassin, now well

they did buff her ... but... yeah.

ap eve is still dead..

Klatn YeloxJul 12, 20151 votes

Here. Keep it on the lowdown, but try an On-hit build with her. I use item 3931 item 3091 item 3153 for core items, then if you want to go full damage get item 3031 item 3078 item 1331 , or if you want to go defensive, go item 3072 , item 3512 E puts you at max attack speed, and deals on-hit effects automatically twice. Blade active plus your ult is a shit-ton of percent max health damage, and a huge slow, while buffing your movespeed a lot. You have lots of damage with all of this, and the new devourer makes it even better.

khorneyJul 12, 20151 votes

ohh man his q tunred into magic damage that makes him op how

AngelSpiteJul 11, 20152 votes

Because she is an old champion-no money...

OperationDEEZ1Jul 11, 20151 votes

WHY! WHY! WHY!

manbearswineJul 11, 20151 votes

Is this a serious question?

I have no clue why this garbage was buffed to this point to begin with.

Why was she brought to this place without any prior changes to vision is beyond me.

Rico NastyJul 11, 20151 votes

I've been saying this and I will keep saying it, take her mid. All/most of her problems go away.

I Miss CannonJul 11, 20151 votes

Yeah, let's take her mid. It's not like her passive is useless on lane, she practically doesn't have favorable match-ups and it's even impossible for her to win against champions with the same profession (assasins). Good idea. Evelynn is taken for her good early pressure and splitpushing, late game she's just a sandsack in teamfights that can't dive the backline without being blown up but also does no damage to tanks no matter how you build. So you practically have no mid-lane carry and need to take an additional one top/jungle. Yeah her roaming is good but so is the roaming of many other mid lane assasins. If you see Ahri or Zed in your warded tri-bush/river bush it's already too late expect you can answer to that with something like a countergank from the jungler.

bradJul 11, 20151 votes

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Decent but not overwhelming.

u ever see a runeglaive ap evelynn one shot ur adc

Zair UmbrasJul 12, 20151 votes

I did last game and I also saw her do it back in the day with her E when it did magic damage. Riot's logic. Let's keep a basic ability at 100% ratio, nerf everything else in her kit, wonder why she does well still, then changes E to physical, thinking they've solved the problem, then add item that makes half of it do magic damage, turning it into an 80% with magic damage scaling and 50% to physical damage, and they're saying Ezreal is the one abuser of Runeglaive. roflmao.

Riot could change her E back to magical and just nerf its ratio and it'd be fine, but they've decided to nerf every other part of her kit. Literally every part. Her W, her R, and her Q have all received nerfs since her rework, but her E has never been nerfed despite the fact that it was her burst potential. lol.

Now, what's really made her OP is the fact that they did buff her Q's damage to do 55% of her AP while on a 1.5s cd. With a tiny bit of CDR and it may as well be Cass's E. lol. So, her burst is about 130% of her AP instantly, then constant DPS from her Q. The buff to her Q was after the change of her E to physical, sort of a compensation. It's just silly. They always overload her kit with silly things. She'll be back to normal after next patch when Runeglaive is more worthless than a TM against an AP team.

THESuperStuntManJul 11, 20151 votes

I think it's more that the PLAYERS hate playing against her. If she's ever viable she rises to the top of the ban rates. And since Riot bases most of their nerfs off of ban rates...

IcyPepperJul 12, 20152 votes

Evelynn is 1000x more fun to play against Katarina, Zed, and the likes of them.

Evelynn just does not have the same issues as them, and it seems like Riot is biased for them.

LionelLeonJul 12, 20151 votes

Riot is not biased to assassins, it's hard to nerf an assassin w/o gutting them.They've been nerfing kat hard even though the meta countered her when she was being nerfed, she's an assassin that is good in the late game unlike zed, that's why they can nerf her numbers.

IcyPepperJul 12, 20151 votes

Riot is not biased to assassins,

I didn't say they were. I should have said it clearer, but I was saying Riot is biased toward certain assassins more than others. Evelynn is an assassin, but it seems like she has it tougher than Zed and Katarina.

SuperJediNinjaJul 12, 20151 votes

Riot-Because you're a useless ward

Rinky DinkyJul 12, 20151 votes

Im thinking it was because of the ap item changes.

Rylais liandries then tank eve sounds fuckin scary

khorneyJul 12, 20151 votes

lol funny quote not on my wacth

Sailor GalaxiaJul 12, 20151 votes

LMAOOO

WolfBVJul 12, 20151 votes

She's getting an early game nerf/late game buff to her ult. So that's a thing.

DynamiteGazelleJul 12, 20151 votes

Meh her ult is like the most inconsequential part of her kit

Klatn YeloxJul 12, 20151 votes

Thats if you don't know how to use it.

Mountain WardenJul 12, 20151 votes

Eve is a mess. I love her but she needs to be gutted and redone since Riot doesn't know what to do with her with her current kit.

Meeks011Jul 12, 20151 votes

A Rioter was playing a game as Riven and an Evelynn got the one kill on her that prevented her from going 20-0.

Majin RogueOct 14, 20151 votes

I main ap assassin eve mid, she is SUPPOSE to be hybrid assassin, just give her base dmg on ult and Q travel speed back, maybe a little base health buff, and she's fine! she has low base dmg high ratios. gunblade lichbane cap core items. then you can interchange abyssal, zhonyas, liandrys, rylais, void, wota. it all does crazy burst. IMO she should have slow (SLOW ONLY) immune during the 2 second sprint.