Why can't Riot just admit they messed up?

Devack The Holy··1 votes·448 views

And revert the "compensation" for Veigar?

Seriously. As if what they did to Veigar wasn't bad enough, they release TWO hyper-mobile champs right after each other, who have no issue avoiding his abilities. Now, even with the "buffs" to Veigar, he's still useless. Every champ he used to counter can now counter him, and even immobile lane opponents can avoid both his CC and his AOE W.

I know what you're going to say: "But an insta-stun has no counterplay!" That thing was all that was keeping Old Veigar alive! And he still had counterplay! What really galled me was people saying that everything in the cage NOT THE EDGE LIKE THE ACTUAL ABILITY DOES was the stun area. He's not Annie, people. He doesn't have two AOE stuns. In fact, he doesn't even have the stun now, because everyone can avoid it easily. So people in Korea were playing him as a Support. Have people easily forgotten how much terror ANNIE brought to the role? Or when Taric was top-tier?

And stop acting like the AP changes are going to help him. They may short-term, but watch Riot gut him again like most of the other AP champs in the following patches.

Revert Veigar 2015.

2 Comments

Laraso2 votes

I'm sick of everyone calling Veigar "useless". Do you even know what useless means? He's far from it.

Same thing with Zilean, everyone screams "oh he's gutted now, he's completely useless". Meanwhile he has a 52% win rate in high elos, and then you actually run into a good Zilean and have to deal with that extremely oppressive slow (it might as well be a targeted snare). Yea, he's totally useless guys. Let's make a thread about it, targeting all of his weaknesses and ignoring all of his strengths, fill it with extreme amounts of conjecture and hyperbole and watch it hit the front page in 2 hours.

MiriaJiyuu2 votes

My favorite is where, no matter how easy they make it to beat Veigar in lane, he will always nuke your AP carry in the late game.

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