i main jungle and this is a costant problem EVERYONE tell me its my fault they lost there lane. Bot lane is the worst offender of this "what are you talking about we won". No mother fucker thats why he has almost full build at 16-20 mins.
Irelia Bot4 votesWell if you never gank, never get objectives, never have any pressure on the map then it is like the game is a 4v5 when the enemy jungler is doing those.
The Paulrus3 votesProbably the same reason that if the adc is bad, overextends, gets caught out, and feeds, somehow, it's the support's fault.
DestructoDave3 votesSometimes it is your fault. Junglers dont seem to understand there is more to do in the game than farm jungle camps all day while looking at the shop on what items they want to buy after they get enough gold, with the occasional gank if they are near a lane AFTER they do a camp.
Its a team game. Sometimes, the other jungler imposing his will on the game, getting objectives, creating pressure in lanes, doing work, is winning them the game, while you, the jungler who is 0/0/0 still chopping away on a raptor camp while mid pings for assistance because its a free kill, and you miss the entire window because you spend 15-20 seconds clearing a little more jungle before taking advantage of an opportunity, is losing the game for your team.
Junglers forget that they are still part of a team, a team that needs them. They have the freedom and ability to completely change the game and lanes like no other role in the game, and most don't do it because they are too busy afking the jungle camps and ganking without a thought or a care in the world to how or why they are doing it.
Some lane matchups aren't going to win. Some lanes are going to need help. Sometimes, skipping that camp and ganking when the opportunity is there, instead of wasting your time or window for 100g, is more worth.
I had a game yest. Enemy mid was pushing me in really hard, being really dumb. She had no turret, she had no mana, she was half life, she had no ult (Ahri), and she had no wards. I told this jungler all of this. So by the time I ping it 500 times, and finally get him to come mid, he stops by the raptor camp to clear that first, and this moron Ahri gets away scott free, when it was a free kill. Did I need that kill to win? No I was already winning lane, but I'm pretty sure that kill/assist was worth more than all the time the jungler wasted pissing around and then stopping to waste time on raptors.
Is this every jungler? No, but its enough of them that is a problem all laners see. i actually play jungle from time to time. Games where the enemy jungler is killing 4-5 ppl, taking objectives, etc, while im 0/0/0, those games are my fault we are losing. I'm literally doing nothing.
Oddysseas1 votesIf your the jungler, its also your fault, pay attention to cs and pay attention to the kills, if they are in trouble, get down there before its too late, camp for them if you have to. Bot lane is tbe scariest cause if mid feeds, it's one enemy, if top feeds it's one but if bot feeds its two, so camp the shit out of theor motherfuckers and dont let them breathe.
MPendragon1 votesBecause they are IGNORANT to the fact that they should take responsibility for something, that is THEIR responsibility.
People don't seem to realize the inexpensiveness of wards, which happen to be a GOLDEN PRICE to pay for winning your lane for the period of time it's duration is.
75G to win my lane for 3 minutes? Sign me up!
Instead they see it as? Pssh, 75G for vision, that's a supports job, I"M THE CARRY. Carry dies, loses out on farm. Doesn't buy a ward, even if it's suggested because, now you're stubborn, and you want to be able to prove that you can win your lane without buying essential game changing items. Which is really curious to me, considering people intentionally select GAME CHANGING CHAMPIONS.
Meta is not something that can be learned by the average person.
Tsugaga1 votesRelax. I played a lot of jungle in season 3, and I started playing it a lot again this season, so I understand. You have to be able to take a lot of blame and hate as a jungler. Every lane wants a gank, and sometimes a losing lane will blame you for it. Nobody cares when you're invaded, everyone wants your buffs, it's your fault for a loss, you got carried if you won, etc. I just had a loss the other day as jungler and was blamed for the loss, my marksman was d/c for the first 20 minutes and I had the first or second best score on my team, but I didn't have enough early game pressure in a 4v5 so it was my fault. You just have to relax and ignore what others say. You should know any mistakes that you made, and your mistakes may have contributed to the loss or made it hard to win, so just focus on improving and don't worry about anyone else says.
