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Love the Shyvana buffs on PBE! BUT..

Düff McWhalen·12/20/2019, 8:11:03 PM·1 votes·1,751 views
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Current changes (skip past the line at the bottom for the real reason I'm posting);

Shyvana

1 - Fury of the Dragonborn (Passive) "Shyvana passive now gains a stack with Elder Dragon " "Cloud Dragon now increases fury gains on Shyvana by the same amount of Ult CDR it grants (cause her ult has no actual cooldown)"

2 - Flame Breath (E) On Hit Damage increased from 3.25% Max Health to 3.75% Max Health Monster damage cap increased from 100 to 150

Awesome little buff. Despite what people say about AP Shyvana she is easily countered by item 3155 item 3102 item 3190 item 3053 item 3194 (for the burn effect) and item 3157 , all the standard items for dealing with burst champions. I greatly appreciate you not locking her into her AD/Bruiser build, Riot. Shyvana has no cc and is a champion that needs to be adaptable with her builds because her items are where her team contribution comes from.

The main thing I want to address is the Air Dragon buff to her Rage bar. This is a great change in concept, however what if there is no Air dragon that spawns that game? Shyvana might be fantastic at soloing dragons but there is also the matter of enemy team grouping, enemy jungler movements, the current meta favoring early grouping and team fighting bot side and in the bot jungle to secure the dragons. The nerfs to the dragons this patch might help alleviate SOME pressure to "need to get every dragon", but the dragon souls being in the game will always trump any nerfs to the buffs themselves given that it's a permanent team buff.

Shyvana simply needs to replenish rage while she's respawning. The Air dragon changes to her is as close to an open acknowledgement that this needed to happen for a long time imo. Simply allow her to regain her resource while respawning. Shyvana is in amazing spot right now for what she is. Her numbers are great, her itemization is great, her drawbacks and strengths are clearly defined, yet having to go into the jungle just to recharge your ult while your team rages at you for preparing for the next fight, has been asinine for a long time. Forget the Air dragon change and just make the change you know needs to be made and nothing else and you will have a perfectly balanced champion for once.

2 Comments

AIQ12/20/2019, 10:18:53 PM1 votes

Bro it took me 8 months of pestering to get Meddler and Co. to implement Elder. And since the day Cloud was changed to get the 10 fury.

DW buddy. Fury while dead/ Q on wards not counting/ W MVSPD decay are all on my list to continue with lol.

I'll be here til her lore is fixed XD.

In all seriousness though, yes these changes have been mentioned. I'm truly surprised Elder took this long since it when I talked to Meddler in 9.2 he said it would be in 9.3. I think Shyvana is just in a really weird spot. She is not popular, but she is not super unpopular. She has her rework on the way at some point, so how much work do they really want to do?

Things like her Q bug I feel are a must, but do they really need to test W without decay? (My bias answer is yes) So Fury while dea which is what you are asking for here, was something I mentioned for a long time. The first response I got was that,

"Her being the only champion with out a ULT CD while dead makes her unique."

Stupid I know, but later Riot changed their view later on that and simply "they'd look into it." Nothing beyond that.

I'd hope that this would still be considered as it would not make her OP, but in the few base defense situations with her back against the wall. Shyvana having that ult might do wonders.

So yes, I agree and I hope you gain traction. I'm Really hyped about those changes too, even though they are small. We will fix the Dragon one step at a time!!!!!!

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