Yasuo's balance/brokeness

I NEED HEALlNG··6 votes·1,076 views

I don't think his kit is broken. His Q,W,E in my opinion are finre. It creates outplay and a fun champ. Especially his Wind wall, I don't find it broken since you have to wait it out like a Kayle ultimate or taric Ultimate.

But i do think they could do something about his passive and damage scalings without changing the champion. To me it's out the ass. Keep same mechanics, change the damage in a certain way or something

What do you guys think?

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Rewt3 votes

what makes yasuo hard to deal with is the Armor pen from his ult. If you remove that Yasuo would be ridiculously weak. But hey, thats a good starting point. Then they can figure out how to make it a bit better

ScissorsNstuff2 votes

nothing wrong with his passive, its just a very single target midgame power spike that falls off later.

a lot of champs do this. Its nothing special

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he never falls off.

ScissorsNstuff4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-11T03:21:41.121+0000)

he never falls off.

his primary damage source (crits) is literally designed to fall off lategame.

"but muh double crit chance"

He gets double crit chance meaning he power spikes twice as fast

but he also gets 10% less critical strike damage meaning that as the end game approaches he will be dealing less if he builds crit whenever he crits.

"but muh mobility!"

its a fixed distance therefore the faster the average champ is moving the less it matters additionally cdr and how much damage is being dealt to him in a short amount of time matter as well

"but muh shield"

doesn't scale that well unless you are 100% dependent on some incredibly weak poke

"but muh ult"

yasuo can zone you like a mage or most midlaners, just act like youre playing against veigar who also falls off lategame.

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He never falls off.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-12T21:42:05.408+0000)

He never falls off.

that's your fear talking

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i don't think you understand, nor have the ability to comprehend. i'm not complaining about yasuo. i love yasuo

he doesn't fall off.

read a book?

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T04:19:51.832+0000)

i don't think you understand, nor have the ability to comprehend. i'm not complaining about yasuo. i love yasuo

he doesn't fall off.

read a book?

none of which actually contradicts anything

I prefer movies

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It does.

What's your fav movie?

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-14T01:38:18.253+0000)

It does.

What's your fav movie?

Not one thing. Because you are too fearful to see him fall off. Even if you love him

Not sure what I'd say my favorite movie is. I see a lot of them but I like things intended to be particularly good not just ones that happen to be good.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Amelie_poster.jpg

here's a really great comedy that comes to mind

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ2NzkzMDI4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDA0NzE1NA@@._V1_UY1200_CR85,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg

mystery thrillers

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTkxMTA5OTAzMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjA5MDc3NjE@._V1_UX182_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg

silliness and obscenity

I like a lot of movies, I also like a lot of anime and games and stuff. Books are dull and I prefer to do dull things with them.

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He simply doesn't fall off. Ever, maybe it could be hard to get in and not get cc'd to death, but that's extremely diff from falling off

I don't watch movies much, at least not anymore. Never really did.

But i DO watch a lot of anime. Mostly ones most anime watchers never heard of(meaning the plebs that only watched SAO and Attack on Titan n whatever ...i ain't no nerd.

What's your favourite

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-15T13:40:00.023+0000)

He simply doesn't fall off. Ever, maybe it could be hard to get in and not get cc'd to death, but that's extremely diff from falling off

being incapable of performing is a form of falling off.

I don't watch movies much, at least not anymore. Never really did.

But i DO watch a lot of anime. Mostly ones most anime watchers never heard of(meaning the plebs that only watched SAO and Attack on Titan n whatever ...i ain't no nerd.

What's your favourite

same issue, I watch too many to really pick one but I prefer mystery thriller type stuff like monster, kendaichi case files, and speed grapher

outside of this one of my favorites is Shoujo Kakumei Utena

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Back

up

the

fucking

claim

YoungSirJ0ey2 votes

Did you just say crit is designed to fall off late? Did you just say VEIGAR falls off late?

I don't think I need to say anything here.

But I will say this: Yasuo's dash may be a fixed distance, but it's not a fixed speed; its speed scales with his movement speed and thus your argument there doesn't work either.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

{quoted}

Did you just say crit is designed to fall off late?

I don't think I need to say anything here.

Correct, you really don't need to be saying anything if that's what you think you read, its better to go back and read again if you come to a strange conclusion like that rather than throw up some useless strawman

good for you lol

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ooh, passive agressive. doesn't take criticism well.

recipe for dork

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=000200000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-13T04:20:58.818+0000)

ooh, passive agressive. doesn't take criticism well.

recipe for dork

Nothing passive aggressive about it.

I'm calling you borderline fallacious. I'm saying you didn't read well enough.

There's nothing passive aggressive about that.

You caught yourself which is good though, or were you being sarcastic about not doing something incredibly stupid?

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So much passive aggressiveness.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ra My Duckling,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aJuU8qjE,comment-id=00020000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-14T01:38:59.219+0000)

So much passive aggressiveness.

what makes you think it's passive? I am simply aggressing.

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Lenny face

Ben SwoIo2 votes

Screw his wind wall, it's a joke. You just compared a regular skill to a couple of champ's ultimates (in the sense they can negate other powers an ultimates) and that's not a problem? I think it's lame.

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Braun can block and end ultimates.

Ben SwoIo1 votes

Yeah. Too bad he doesn't have everything else Yasuo has in one kit though, so there's that.

PimpStickNasus2 votes

Are we just gonna ignore that he said veigar falls off?

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where?

Fishlord1 votes

I'd say change his crit scaling per level. So say he has item 1051 at level 1. He'd stay at 10% crit chance. And if he kept that item or another item depending on how much crit damage it would eventually scale into the full 100% with item 3046 anditem 3031 .

IronwallJackson1 votes

Yasuo's Q is an empowered auto (full ad scaling) his is like 30%, and his ult is only 150% bonus ad. With the crit rebuff on his Q, an entire rotation only deals damage equivalent to like 3 autos come late game.

I NEED HEALlNG1 votes

which seems to half health tanks alike. 3 autos in 1 spell is a lot

MissingKayo1 votes

But he does 3 autos in one rotation which barely takes a second or two, and his Q and E both have extremely low CDs lategame.

iGeezy1 votes

I simply think he's obnoxious to play against but he's not broken.

FantasySniper1 votes

His kit is overloaded. Not much counterplay to Wind Wall when he can use it delete and stall game-changing ultimates. Not much counterplay to Sweeping Blade when he can use your own units as a constant source of mobility without sacrificing damage.

I NEED HEALlNG2 votes

So i guess Kayle and taric and Braun can't be waited out? Oh you must attack i forgot

FantasySniper1 votes

You can CC them. You can still apply debuffs and DoTs.

Yasuo? Nope. If it's a projectile, no matter how wide or powerful, it's fucking meaningless.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Walk around the wall isn't counterplay because yasuo windwall comes wth a snare and forces you to waste all of your skills on it and to last pick lux into him

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FantasySniper1 votes

Or, you know, he actually uses windwall on the projectile instead of you using the projectile on the windwall.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

or you know, I've said to now waste all of your skills on it once he blocks one and play around a 24 seconds cooldown.

FantasySniper1 votes

Do you know how his Windwall works?

Even if a projectile makes contact with Yasuo, his Windwall can still block it because it comes from behind him.

There's none of this "noob throwing spells into the windwall", it's "yasuo just blocked my ult and there's nothing that could've been done about it other than hoping beyond all hope that he wastes it instead."

GULAG 4 U1 votes

If Yasuo saves his windwall specifically for you ult, then he's fucking eating free poke. Jesus christ, you make it sound like you should be able to faceroll onto someone and if doesn't work, then the champion must be fucking broken.

FantasySniper1 votes

His passive is what eats the poke, not his Windwall.

And you make it sound like Yasuo is just standing there taking punishment when he in fact could be putting his sword up your ass.

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