That's basically what he does and he is extremely hard to punish especially his Passive which is super hard to track when it's on cooldown and when it's not.
How do you even counter this obnoxious champion? His waveclear is insane since his W basically execute minions when his E is on it.
Bronze 6 Yasuo25 votesBuff Mage items. Mage too weak.
HaIlMonitor1 votesBuff him? lol
Marshbouy6 votesI think he's being facetious and poking fun at the boards for being supportive of mages.
IDK
HaIlMonitor4 votesProbably, but Malz is one of the reasons people dont play the fun mages like Ahri. He is just too good.
wildfox993 votesProbably, but Malz is one of the reasons people dont play the fun mages like Ahri. He is just too good.
"funny" mages were played even when stuff like malzahar or annie (pre rework) could 
R and kill you ALONE at lvl 6,it's just that back in season 5/early 6 you could main a champion and having success with him it doesn't matter if he was in meta or not (having a meta champion meant that non mains would success with him and his mains would be so stong,but you could try to win),now if you don't pick the broken meta champion you are going to lose it doesn't matter how good you are with your champion so everyone is forced to pick the top 3 champions for each role
atm nobody plays ahri because of her kit being as underwhelming as nunu's kit is : 0 damage,weak early and lategame and average mid game,her kit is reduced to her Q and E (passive and W are there just because LOL's champion must have 5 abilities,they are more than useless while her ult is the "oh i'm out positioning but dw i got my ult",no point for use it aggressively),actually your only purpose when you play her is safely getting your 6 and try to make your ADC fed rushing bot,no interaction with enemy mid laner (unless you have ignite and he's at 50% forget to kill him,and with her kit is so hard poking someone that hard) and no solo or teamfight potential,you feel useless for the whole game as everything is up to your teammates being good or bad...that's not the playstyle that her playerbase used to love,so that's why...
Bronze 6 Yasuo4 votesYes. Buff 
because they definitely need buffs.
Dead flag blues19 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-01-21T20:02:58.921+0000)
Yes. Buff
AD champs can buy stopwatch too, support items are ruined by everyone because how broken they are (coin nasus, relic shield adcs). Talking about real cancer ? Hexdrinker allowing to win trade easily, IE + Shivv giving burst damage to "ADC with sustained damage", Duskblade being the biggest powerspike of the game, here we go.
Bronze 6 Yasuo4 votesI'll tell you what's more cancer than a 200 magic damage shield?
Being invulnerable for 2.5 seconds.
Also duskblade is not the biggest power spike 
is.
Also you saying that ad champs can take stopwatch too does not change the fact that it is overpowered and needs nerfs
Dead flag blues8 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=00000000000100000001,timestamp=2018-01-21T20:10:37.191+0000)
I'll tell you what's more cancer than a 200 magic damage shield?
Being invulnerable for 2.5 seconds.
Hexdrinker : 1300 golds = AD+MR+Shield passive Zhonya : 2900 golds = AP+Armor + 10% cdr + passive (let's not forget that its component gives nothing else than armor and mr)
Zhonya in a 1v1 = Oh I'm just making my death lasting 2.5 more seconds, sacrifying my early game mana regen + poke damage + cdr and also I have to time my passive, but in most cases I'm just going to die anyway Hexdrinker in a 1v1 = Oh this guy hit everything while I have 2 less kills than him, who cares, the shield got my back when I have absolutly nothing to do to trigger it
Bronze 6 Yasuo4 votesHexdrinker gives 25 ad and zhonyas gives 70 ap.
Hexdrinker gives 35 magic resist and zhonyas gives 45 armour.
Zhonyas gives you 10% cdr
Stop watch builds into zhonyas which is broken cause that means u can get it before zed gets 6.
Hexdrinker gives you a 200 hp shield when you take magic damage when you are under 30% hp.
Zhonyas gives you 2.5 seconds of invulnerability to counter champs like zed.
If I wanna get around the same stats as zhonyas I'm gonna have to pay 3150 instead of 2900
Dead flag blues10 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=0000000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-21T20:28:50.354+0000)
Hexdrinker gives 25 ad and zhonyas gives 70 ap.
Hexdrinker gives 35 magic resist and zhonyas gives 45 armour.
Zhonyas gives you 10% cdr
Stop watch builds into zhonyas which is broken cause that means u can get it before zed gets 6.
Hexdrinker gives you a 200 hp shield when you take magic damage when you are under 30% hp.
Zhonyas gives you 2.5 seconds of invulnerability to counter champs like zed.
If I wanna get around the same stats as zhonyas I'm gonna have to pay 3150 instead of 2900
Once again, Hexdrinker costs 1300 golds, Zhonya costs 2900 golds
Somebody Love Me11 votesZhonyas is a full item and Hxdrinker is a component?????
Bronze 6 Yasuo1 votesSeekers
SithesisLord9 votesYou still have to stack it to full for the Armor and the AP to start doing stuff.
Hexdrinker, on the other hand? Just buy it.
wildfox996 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=0000000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-21T20:28:50.354+0000)
Hexdrinker gives 25 ad and zhonyas gives 70 ap.
Hexdrinker gives 35 magic resist and zhonyas gives 45 armour.
Zhonyas gives you 10% cdr
Hexdrinker gives you a 200 hp shield when you take magic damage when you are under 30% hp.
Zhonyas gives you 2.5 seconds of invulnerability to counter champs like zed.
If I wanna get around the same stats as zhonyas I'm gonna have to pay 3150 instead of 2900
just the fact that a component item (1300g) is almost comparable with a full item (2900g) should say everything...plus you don't have to finish it,
alone is enought for negate any AP kill pressure untill he gets 3/4 items,you just delay by 1300g your build then you can go for lethality,while an AP have to build a full item for being able to not to being oneshooted and yet it gives no damage,no mana sustain (which is essential as mage especially in early,he will run OOM so fast so you can either outpush him or engaging him so he runs OOM for countertrade) and its active takes ages for being up again (almost forgot,exhdrinker have half CD as zhonya have)
Stop watch builds into zhonyas which is broken cause that means u can get it before zed gets 6.
stop watch means giving up 600g for a single use active,zed ults you once,you stasis and you just gave up 600g in nothing,you have an item which gives no stats and no actives so now zed is 600g ahead and can snowball
then even if you get it pre 6,if zed doesn't have his ult why you should use it? [sg-lux-2]
again it gives no stats,so having it before zed can ult you is useless
btw you are saying that an item is broken because can counter 1 champion?!? (that the only form of counterplay he have is actually building this item?)
if zed is being countered too hard by this item then he should get buffed (IF),but you can't say X can't be buffed because counter Y while being so weak against all others
Bronze 6 Yasuo2 votesSeekers
wildfox997 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=000000000001000000010000000000020000,timestamp=2018-01-21T21:47:58.401+0000)
Seekers
you mean that item that needs 30 unit kills for just having the same base stats as exhdrinker have (but without the passive shield)?
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HaIlMonitor1 votesIf they buff all mage items, and dont nerf him it would simply just make him stronger then he already is, (maybe not compaired to other mages who would also get stronger) but in general. If you can't understand that you are "plain dumb."
taleofsonata18 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-21T19:55:34.966+0000)
Buff Mage items. Mage too weak.
Ok mage are not weak its the gameplay they currently have, a Support that CC you basically.
Colton1473 votes[{quoted}](name=Bronze 6 Yasuo,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aEzkmJjP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-21T19:55:34.966+0000)
Buff Mage items. Mage too weak.
Majority of the mages are weak; however, there are still strong mages, such as 
, 
, 
, 
mid, and 
.
Jinx Hunter2 votesMajority of the mages are weak; however, there are still strong mages, such as
and not very many like them. That's why people are complaining. The popular fun ones feel like ass to play. The only good mages are the annoying ones that few like to play so they haven't received as many hits from the nerf hammer. It would be the same thing if Riven and Yasuo were weak as hell and someone said "but 
are strong!!! Play Those!!!!" <---ok bad eample champs but you get the point.
People are complaining because 
all feel like ass to play in comparison (
is fine imo, but even his mains are complaining).
Point being The ones that still have an impact are boring or least that seems to be the consensus I am seeing. Also you forgot 
and 
Shit I just want and not to both be hot garbage.
Another reason for mages feeling weak is marksmen getting BPS instead of DPS. Why play a champ that needs skill shots and mana to burst when you can right click and the right click can't miss unless you are clicking on 
or you are a boosted monkey and miss click the wrong thing like a boosted ape.
YokoNomi9 votesI miss old Malzahar. He was still powerful back then, but least he wasn't strong enough to always be on the radar
Zed genius7 votesMost of the time i have beat malzahars by them being dumb and missplaying lol, otherwise there's nothing you can do versus him
Crystalysk4 votesThat usually happens when they try to force a trade, Malzahar's newbies, they are so funny.
ModAcademy Kayn5 votesNow imagine if his abilities had even higher base damages and ratios, and his ult was purely flat damage with an insanely high ratio. That was Old Malz, and as someone who used to play him back then, he was still a bitch to deal with.
The Great Divide9 votesYes, he did much more damage - but he didn't have that spell shield making it extraordinarily hard to punish him for mispositions and mistakes.
The spell shield is the entire problem.
ModAcademy Kayn3 votesA person shouldn't be able to do a lot of damage, just because he could potentially be mispositioning. Malz's problem was having two high damage click and point spells, one which was exceptional for waveclearing and mana sustain, really early in the game.
Hexs Fortune4 votesMalz in a nutshell
E-W farm minions
Q-R, assist ganks
1v1 not necessary, just farm for dat jg gank
An Draoi4 votesI think they need to make his R more conditional. IE: requires setup
If he works some condition out (lands an ability, something idk) he is able to ult. Similar to how Yasuo can't ult unless youre airborne
It would probably reduce a lot of early game frustration against him because you can't just point and click 2.5 second suppress anymore, giving the feeling of more couterplay potential.
P4ppino3 votesKill his voidlings, and his waveclear goes away. That's all you gotta do. Also, qss frees you from his ult.
Bârd4 votesHe's still good at pushing with just Q and E.
P4ppino1 votesYea, for 1-2 waves and thats it, his mana is gone.
Bârd2 votesNot really. He builds early mana and his E gives mana sustain.
As long as he's not wasting mana, he can last a while.
P4ppino2 votesOther champs have good waveclear too, if they buy mana. Midlaners often fall into this category.
Crystalysk3 votesCan people please stop pretending there is a mana issue when manaflow band and lost chapter make it impossible to run out of mana?
Limrick6 votes??????????????
Manaflow band and Morello gives him basically infinite mana, and his E practically clears waves alone later on.
Tykenn2 votesAny champion with decent waveclear and poke pretty much denies him of ever split pushing and getting ahead. Of course you have to get your jungler to ward the river, so you can ward the other one so you don't get ganked, but that's just what you do for the match up.
A few that come to mind, Azir(completely counters him), Cassiopeia, Lux(You need to build a bit more AP early to kill his voidlings), Orianna, Xerath, Zoe. There is probably more, but those are the tried and tested, and all of them work pretty well against mal.
Personally I'd like it if he got reworked, his kit, while strong(depending on match up) is very lack luster and not really fun to play. Plus the point and click stun ultimate is a bit much.
Stiler2 votesHis weakness is aoe mids.
His w means nothing if you have a decent aoe spell that can take them all out (lux/brand/annie), if you can disrupt is e>w by aoe'ing his voidlings when he uses w he can not farm that well on e alone, he's very dependent on using voidlings for the transfers in early game.
Amoc1 votesIt's not even really about his voidlings. It's more about being able to push back on his wave clear and avoiding malefic visions while having better trade potential. Brand/Ziggs/Lux/Xerath/Morgana can handle his wave clear and poke at him with impunity. Other champions will just win trades and keep him too low to be able to initiate a combo (or be able to disrupt it). Champs like Leblanc, Viktor, Syndra etc work as well.
There are, however, plenty of champs that it's just plain miserable to lane against him with.
Ahri Baka2 votesMalzhar doesn't need a jungler , in my last match against him , I went to roam bot and came back to lane 1 level behind , he pressed R and killed me on full hp , I was level 6 and he was level 7
Amoc3 votescorrection He pressed E, then R, then ignited you. He probably also hit you with Q. Nether Grasp isn't a one-shot ability - not even close.
Ahri Baka2 votesAre you trying to be funny or what ? Yeah we know he did that , the point is , the moment he has Ult , he is ready to kill even if you have full hp , that's why he is strong , mages in early can't kill anyone on full hp with combo , except him and 
, but you can run easily from Annie , but for Malzhar , ult means a kill , he doesn't even need ignite after that kill he took when he was level 7 , he'll just recall to buy items and come back for another kill
Amoc2 votesHe's not ready to kill you at full HP. His abilities don't do THAT much damage. He needs to get you down a bit before he can 100>0, otherwise he's going to be auto-attacking for awhile with nothing else to do.
The annoying thing about facing Malzahar in lane is that few champs can match him for pushing and unless you good wave-clearing of your own, or a safe way to harrass him, you're going to spend a lot of your time at your tower without jungle help. If you're a champ who relies on melee last hitting and you don't have a safe way to poke at Malz, you'll likely have a bad time.
ChuShoe1 votesThe only option and answer to anything in life:
Play Nasus Mid.
Ariel the Cruel3 votesThe answer is always Karthus. Don't you know your LoL?
ChuShoe3 votesFather forgive me for I have spoken heresy. Everything is karthus, love, beauty, and faith.
Ariel the Cruel2 votesVery good. Now say 12 hail zom--
Wait a minute...
Everything is karthus, love, LIFE, and faith.
Off with his soul!
ChuShoe1 votesEdited* how may I correct this sin father.