All of the plants are fine except for blast cone.

Numb3rs··39 votes·2,734 views

It's honestly doing more harm than good.

ive seen more idiots on my team use it to get our teammates killed more than it has been useful

i'm making this post after my troll teammate actually got me killed intentionally by shooting the cone i was on before i could position myself and flying me into the enemy team... like why does something like this exist? its some extra bullshit i shouldn't have to deal with

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Hauling Ashe16 votes

This is the one plant I despise. I feel like the other two add some nice bits to the game, but blast cone is just a gimmick that voids people's plays.

50000000000000002 votes

But you can make plays with blast cone, too? Level 1 jungle invade is much more effective with blast cone (behind blue buff) Your whole team can jump into the dragon pit to initiate a fight.

Marshbouy3 votes

I love the blast cone, it's my favorite one.

Numb3rs1 votes

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I love the blast cone, it's my favorite one.

well makes sense since the others ones are boring lol

Marshbouy3 votes

I find none of them to be boring. I enjoy them all, but I recognize the potential of the blast cone and constantly use it to my advantage in the jungle.

Silly Neeko2 votes

I like the blast cone, it is an ally and enemy advantage. There are what, 6 blast cones in general? And if they are there, and you know it is there, you can troll an enemy with just going to the blast cone. The difference between good positioning and bad positioning is just a matter of if you know whats there. Thats like saying thresh has bad positioning but can get away by hooking a minion/wraith. Or even better example, they use flash to get over the wall. Similarish cooldowns, if the enemy has used them already for getting around, it is unavailable for the enemy to use, but also unavailable for an ally if they need it.

The whole difference between bad positioning and good positioning is....... Do you know whats available for use and can you use it to your advantage?

PlanetWarwick1 votes

Had a game where enemy vi flashed into pit almost stole drake and qed out Our Ashe went to the edge of the pit and hit the blast cone and we bmed for 5 seconds and it felt great until their entire team came and wrekt us

Only Play Darius2 votes

It's annoying to see ADC's get a free pass out of danger after tooling around alone in the enemy jungle just because of that damn plant

Breaku1 votes

If you're not going to use it, then clear it yourself~

ShaolinToilet1 votes

Okay so risk going to their jungle to clear their plants just in case you happen to catch an adc near there?

Breaku1 votes

How is an ADC out of position in their own jungle if it isn't safe for you to go there?

ShaolinToilet1 votes

It's a risk in the first place but it can be worth it if you catch an adc is wandering around in their jungle.

Gosh Darn2 votes

I just made a thread exactly like this a few weeks ago. The other plants are fine, good for the game even, but the blastcone is absolute bullshit.

GigaPube2 votes

i think riot are ok with the greater potential of teammates trolling when they first released bard and then tahm kench

Flaherty1 votes

I've never had a teammate use it to troll, you just got unlucky and if that person was doing it purposefully it doesn't matter if the plant was there or not they would have trolled in a different way

Numb3rs3 votes

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I've never had a teammate use it to troll, you just got unlucky and if that person was doing it purposefully it doesn't matter if the plant was there or not they would have trolled in a different way

yeah that was just an example of the bullshittery it adds to gameplay. There should not be something that allows poorly positioned players to escape easily because there just happens to be a blast cone there.

Flaherty3 votes

Why shouldn't there be? And it's not like they are all over the map, it's one area that the person either chose to be around in case they need to escape (which isn't really bad positioning) or they just happen to position badly in the same spot the plant is which isn't going to happen frequently enough to make it a major issue.

Serevas1 votes

While I agree in most cases, I will also admit that I've enjoyed using them to my advantage just as many times as they've been an annoyance to me.

Multiple Baron and dragon steals, catching opponents with the extra mobility, escaping when I typically wouldn't survive, pulling enemies back into my team with them.

resumed1 votes

i hate the scryer's plant

whats with the vandetta against vision riot

junglers using it to check for wards before they gank and even when there's no ward the laner still sees the plant get used anyway and they back off when it would have been an easy kill

alternatively it's being used to clear vision when nobody bought a pink or doesn't have red trinket

SwiftKitten881 votes

and yet blast cone is STILL easier to use than Ziggs satchel charge

Automated Riven1 votes

wha??? satchel charge is easy..

ActivatingEMP1 votes

I love the blast come because it helps against mobility creep- now even the immobile can do a no flash escape

Krully1 votes

dont like that or the blue plant, ones gimmicky as all hell the other is a massive air horn alerting everyone to your position.

PlanetWarwick1 votes

No. best thing ever Adds fun into the game

Wolfeur1 votes

Yeah, yeah, they said the same for Bard's ult, Kalista's ult, Tahm Kench's devour and ult and Kindred's ult…

Trolls are temporary, people will grow out of this joke soon enough and no one will be doing it again except for that one stupid kid that you will encounter once every 100 games.

Tryn Down 4 Wut1 votes

leaving a toxic jungle plant that a troll team mate can trigger is never cool. Fvck the RNG jungle, im a masters level jungler have jungled since the game COST MONEY to buy/play. and this season Ive had it.

Blakiepug1 votes

I understand what Riot was going for with Blast Cone. They wanted to give more mobility to largely immobile jungle champs, however, while that sounds nice in concept, in the actual game all Blast Cones are doing is giving more mobility to already highly immobile champions. I wish Blast Cones would be removed but I don't see it happening anytime soon... :( LeeSin LeeSin LeeSin

Zelorxon1 votes

PSA to all bronzetards reading: the blast cone was added to equalize the ground with nidalee in particular and with every jungler that had a jump to skip walls as they had a HUGE advantage with no counterplay to completely avoid wards and pull ganks 100% successful as nidalee can kill a target on her own unless she's set behind. I know that you guys would like better to go a blasting wand/statikk on thresh instead of going sightstone as a support, but in any relevant elo, they do this noob thing called warding, you know, just because they're beta losers and you are alpha winners.

Riot did all these changes in the jungle to shut down nidalee as she wasn't the queen of the jungle, she had the ability to COMPLETELY shut down jungle and other 2 lanes just due to existing on the map, her heal allowed her to recall less than the average jungler and with hunter's pot and blue buff it was basically like she was 2-3 champions more on the map, not counting the fact that she's an outscaling champion, so she was destined to become even bigger eventually, same thing for graves, and with the new rework it would have been true for kha and every jungler with a jump, as i said before.

The scrying orb doesn't have a particular reason to be or not to be here, it's just a nice addition since it can be used by champions that don't have smite so they can't get the old raptor buff

The honeyfruit is an awkward attempt to give an advantage to low sustain junglers, or junglers that struggle with mana (seju/mao/malph/someone else), it can also be used by laners so it encourages roaming and map pressure, so i guess at the end of the day it's an advantage.

Valexfor1 votes

Well, then why not remove every possibly troll interaction in the game then? We don't need TK's devour, Bard's ult, Anivia's wall, Trundle's wall, Taliyah's wall, Ryze's ult and probably others I forget. It's frustrating to deal with trolls, but personally the plant saved me more than it killed me. Remember: it's not the gun that kills people, it's the one who fires it, so it's not the plant's fault, it's the player's, so instead of punishing the plant by removing it (and removing a lot of strategic depth from the game) we report the player and get him punished so that no one will do that again (or he too will get an harsher punishment).

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