When i get killed by a Zed and he uses his Mastery 5 Emote

Numb3rs·May 17, 2016·61 votes·4,590 views

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Hatless CasualMay 17, 201626 votes

Honestly wish the mastery taunt couldn't be seen by others, it's just being used as a middle finger..... pretty much the tea bagging of League.

billxxMay 17, 20165 votes

Yea but is there anything wrong with that? I'm basically saying I know how to play my champion better than you do yours.

Serika ZeroMay 17, 201634 votes

I don't know. Let me ask you, if you see a person on the street having a bad day, and then a car drives by a nearby pound of water and splashes all over him. Will you go there and laugh in his face while showing him the middle finger and call him a loser? Do you think that's normal?

Its not just "omg the community is toxic". This kind of negative behavior doesn't exist in competitive environment.

If a basketball player scores 2-3 points, they won't show the middle finger to the enemy team, and put out his(or hers) tongue at them. If a soccer player scores a goal, he won't go and shake his ass in the middle of the enemy team's face. Sure, they usually celebrate with a dance or rise hands in sign of victory, like "YES I DID IT". But they don't show negativity towards their enemy. In box, Mayweather doesn't go to spit on his enemy after he won the game by knock-out.

But in league. You get to taunt you enemies, you get to "flash out" your stuff just to provoke them, because "psychological weapons are fair".

Yet you and riot members wonder how come this community is the shittiest of them all. Take a hint ;) It starts with small things, such as "bm" (bad manners emotes), and people thinking "they are cool" for doing it. Even if someone is proud of what they just did and flashes something like emote r5 in happiness (which like never is the deal), it will still be perceived as negative and offensive by the player that died or whatever. Simply because, that's how, the community as a whole acted until now, and riot condoned that behavior (even more, it encourages it)

I Like Things May 17, 201617 votes

Careful with all that rationality around these parts, might get you lynched.

[zombie-nunu-hearts]

billxxMay 17, 20163 votes

Yea but this isn't basketball. I will give as good as I get. If I mastery taunt when I get a kill, I'm not going to freak out when I get killed and they taunt me. And just because you are offended by something doesn't mean it should be gone. Should all atheists be killed because of their beliefs? (Yes I know this is super extreme, not making any accusations).

ninjaIRL May 17, 20164 votes

I think you kinda missed his overarching point. He/she was providing and explanation of the difference of the competitive environments between, in this case, League of Legends and the Basketball sport and the social rules and boundaries that differ between the two.

He/she points out that the Mastery emote enables intent and behaviour to be frankly ignored by the community in the League of Legends environment while if an equivalent action was acted in a Basketball game, a large part of the community, and frankly the majority of the community, in the social environment of Basketball would actively and expressively shun such an action. Given that Riot created the Mastery emotes, by extension (I think it's safe to say) that Riot enables this type of behaviour to be treated by the community in its current state - however the variance of intent is.

As a result these "small" things become the cornerstone for the overall social environment that League of Legends is in - that it's filled with incredible amounts of negativity that the community at large are just beginning to address.

I think this is an important idea that needs to be placed in the realm of "Sport vs E-Sport".

TL;DR Mastery emotes don't help in combating toxicity in League and basically gives it a valid base.

At least that's what I got from it.

billxxMay 17, 20163 votes

But it doesn't give it a viable base. People were toxic before emotes.

ninjaIRL May 17, 20162 votes

I didn't say Emotes started toxicity. The idea is that Emotes contributes to the stubborn existence of toxicity at a base level.

GolduckyMay 17, 20163 votes

If I get a penta kill then of course I'm gonna flash my mastery emote. That's pretty much the only time I use it.

billxxMay 18, 20161 votes

That's not what you wrote in that TL;DR

ninjaIRL May 18, 20161 votes

That's not what it means lol

billxxMay 18, 20161 votes

So saying it is a base for toxicity isn't what you mean? Gee THAT makes sense

ninjaIRL May 19, 20161 votes

I really don't need to repeat myself again.

" The idea is that Emotes contributes to the stubborn existence of toxicity at a base level. "

billxxMay 19, 20161 votes

Alright well now we are into opinions about that and we've been arguing on the same old thread for a while now.

ChoaruMay 17, 20162 votes

Welcome to the Internet :D

DREADN0UGHTMay 17, 20164 votes

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I don't know. Let me ask you, if you see a person on the street having a bad day, and then a car drives by a nearby pound of water and splashes all over him. Will you go there and laugh in his face while showing him the middle finger and call him a loser? Do you think that's normal?

No its not, it also is a terrible comparison.

Its not just "omg the community is toxic". This kind of negative behavior doesn't exist in competitive environment.

If a basketball player scores 2-3 points, they won't show the middle finger to the enemy team, and put out his(or hers) tongue at them. If a soccer player scores a goal, he won't go and shake his ass in the middle of the enemy team's face. Sure, they usually celebrate with a dance or rise hands in sign of victory, like "YES I DID IT". But they don't show negativity towards their enemy.

Again, terribel comparison. If I score a goal in soccer and flash my jersey at the enemy team with pride, its not being a dick. People being offended by it are just fucking over-sensitive cry babies if you want my opinion.

In box, Mayweather doesn't go to spit on his enemy after he won the game by knock-out.

Why do you make it sound like flashing a mastery emote is comparable to spitting in someone's face again?

But in league. You get to taunt you enemies, you get to "flash out" your stuff just to provoke them, because "psychological weapons are fair".

Its not to provoke, people should learn to chill out. Its just a mastery emote. ffs this community.

ChaosThiefMay 17, 20162 votes

terribel

ok now that the nitpicking is done with...

There are multiple kinds of personalities, and each one has a different response. You may not care, but others do, and those others should be catered for as well.

DREADN0UGHTMay 17, 20162 votes

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ok now that the nitpicking is done with...

There are multiple kinds of personalities, and each one has a different response. You may not care, but others do, and those others should be catered for as well.

They have a mute option. For the rest, they can accept the fact that they are playing with 9 other players, and stop being so weak.

Arsenic SulfurMay 18, 20161 votes

Mute doesn't mute emotes, so it still seeps through.

AwoofMay 18, 20161 votes

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Mute doesn't mute emotes, so it still seeps through.

It actually does.

DrehirthMay 18, 20162 votes

It's mostly just the boards.. they really are filled with complete care bears when they over dramatize people using their mastery emote.. then they like to jerk each other off and tell people who tell them to calm down how morally superior they are.

(i'm not talking about the OP, this is in memes and games ffs calm down with your 20 paragraph essay on why using mastery emote is like being a dick irl, because it's not)

It's like from one extreme to the other.. in game people are toxic as hell, so the butthurt people flock to the boards to do this sort of attitude.. where's the in between for the normal people? I want in on that.

DREADN0UGHTMay 18, 20161 votes

Its like we should all be holding hands and shaking eachothers cocks to make sure we are all ok... this fkin generation is weak holy crap.

KING ATTILAMay 18, 20162 votes

Mayweather gets knockouts?

Serika ZeroMay 18, 20161 votes

I picked a famous boxer with attitude problems, and even he showed some respect to enemies in the ring. That doesn't mean I've watched all his matches and so on, but he must have won at least 1 by knockout ^^

theDeblinMay 18, 20161 votes

Personally, in your described scenario what I normally do is throw a half-empty can of beer at the back of their head and yell "Hey Malcovitch, think fast!"

RiviniMay 17, 20163 votes

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Yea but is there anything wrong with that? I'm basically saying I know how to play my champion better than you do yours.

All the mastery emote does is show you played the champion a lot. Doesn't matter whether you're good or bad. Just pick the same champion over and over until you reach level 5. There's no skill involved.

However, those who see it can interpret it however they want, regardless of your intent. Same as when you win and say "ggwp".

billxxMay 17, 20162 votes

If you play a champ to mastery 5, you are probably going to know how to play them.

RiviniMay 17, 20161 votes

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If you play a champ to mastery 5, you are probably going to know how to play them.

Of course, but personally speaking, I know how to play everyone, despite rarely ever playing a good amount of them. If I were to get my Vayne from level 1 to 5, there wouldn't be a noticeable gain in skill, but it'd prove I did play her a lot.

This applies especially to pro players, who can learn the ins and outs of a champion quickly, new or old. It's not required to play them until reaching level 5 mastery to fully understand their mechanics and combos. Sure, some people need that much time to perfect their skill on a champion, but I'd say most don't.

Ultimately, the mastery system only shows how much you spammed each champion.

billxxMay 18, 20161 votes

The more time someone spends on something, the more they will improve at it. If I put a level 5 ekko against a level 1 ekko, the level one will get destroyed. Obviously some champs are different( Warwick)

RiviniMay 18, 20161 votes

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The more time someone spends on something, the more they will improve at it. If I put a level 5 ekko against a level 1 ekko, the level one will get destroyed. Obviously some champs are different( Warwick)

Your logic: A Diamond I level 1 Ekko would be expected to lose to a bronze V level 5 Ekko.

Do you not see the flaw?

billxxMay 18, 20161 votes

Except that divisions aren't that different in mechanical skill. However with an extreme matchup that would never happen, the diamond 1 would probably win. However, if I took 100, say, brand mastery 5s and pitted them against 100 people who had never played brand before, I can't see too many mastery 5s losing. Unless it's b5, in which case who knows what could happen.

RendarkanMay 17, 20165 votes

Aside from Garen joke spam. That is the closest teabagging there is.

Mastery flashing as Teemo though... I got reported for doing that to a Zed and Garen cause Zed tower dived me as well as Garen and tripped a mushroom. It was god damn hilarious.

ninjaIRL May 17, 20162 votes

Then if you make it automatically invisible to other players then it defeats 100% of its purpose. It's supposed to be shown.

However players use it as a weapon of tilt against their opponents, which (depending on how the receiving player copes) can lead to anger (anger that he got rekt, or that the other guy's an arrogant dick) pushing them closer to actions like flaming, trolling, feeding etc.

ThumpinMay 17, 20162 votes

Is this for fucking real? Lets remove all champions' taunts as well. Better remove dances, since that could be BM. Better yet, lets eliminate kills from the game because it might make people getting killed feel bad.

theDeblinMay 18, 20161 votes

It's fine, it just needs some sort of anti-spam measure. Fifteen-second internal cooldown shared by all emotes or something, frankly I'm not sure why that's not already a thing.

Eevee In A JarMay 17, 201621 votes

I only use mastery emote when I mess up.

morris1May 17, 201610 votes

Nothing more satisfying than using it while dead to spook out somebody.

SolitairMay 17, 20166 votes

Actually, nothing more satisfying than crushing the person who showboats their mastery icon. Wha-what happened master Ahri? Maybe you would have won if you flashed your icon wan moar tiem :,(

Eevee In A JarMay 17, 20168 votes

Who hurt you as a child?

SolitairMay 17, 20165 votes

Say whatever you want. It's no less satisfying to crush some cocky little shit.

Eevee In A JarMay 18, 20162 votes

Sorry I'm joking/teasing. I agree in video games you should be able to smack talk and do stuff like that. Not that I do it but it is a game. Smack talk is a natural thing among friends.

theDeblinMay 18, 20163 votes

Ahri : I just... I just wanted Senpai to notice me.

ChoaruMay 17, 20164 votes

I flash my mastery emote as a support to the enemy support when we are just standing there doing nothing as out ADCs are farming...:>

KING ATTILAMay 18, 20161 votes

I will never use it as bm again. Thank you sir for inspiring others! lol

VolgorathMay 17, 20168 votes

Post-game chat:

Zed : "EZ game, git gud mid."

ViashinoWizardMay 17, 20163 votes

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FlashNekoMay 17, 20162 votes

I'd say doing it once after a really big play (or a really big mistake) isn't really rude.

Like, I won't say I HAVEN'T used it after killing a Zedd with Morgana's Q W R combo (or after a well timed Black Shield telling his Ult "nope" when he tries to kill our ADC) but belaboring the point just becomes BMing after a while.

GameShyGilMay 17, 20165 votes

Pretty sure black shield only stops magic damage, Zed ult is physical.

FlashNekoMay 17, 20164 votes

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Pretty sure black shield only stops magic damage, Zed ult is physical.

It won't shield the damage if you land it too early/late BUT it will stop the death ball that does all that AD from sticking to the target in the first place if you land it right.

Mastery 5 emote