Remove the damage from all tanks

Bultz·Apr 24, 2018·7 votes·1,654 views

If I build full fuckign damage and fight a full tank build, I expect to win. I do not want to see someone in full armor do 1000+ ap damage. They are tanks. The fucking end. If they don't build tanky, remove the tankiness from them. I also don't want to see a tank going full ad, doing 1000+ ap damage and have a full crit build with 3000+ hp. Tank take hits. That is all.

Edit: your opinions are moot. Riot needs to nerf tanks. Someone who can just enter a 1v1 or team fight, outlive everyone and out damage them too without needing to outplay anyone is toxic.

24 Comments

MrHaZeYoApr 24, 20188 votes

You realize most of tanks damage comes from being in the fight longer?

If you have no defensive stats, then of course they're gonna do damage to you with their base damage.

If tanks had 0 damage then why would anyone play them? You could just walk around them and ignore them, so no body would play tanks.

This goes back to a topic I made a few hours ago.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/MrW8ky5z-sometimes-i-wonder-if-the-people-who-complain-about-champion-x-stop-and-ask-themselves-this?comment=0000

You play Yas, I could argue that he needs one of the many things trimmed from his Kit. Maybe like not getting his shield back automatically when he ults.

Maybe you need to play tanks to understand how to play against them. Furthermore eventually tanks get shredded by ADCs (even Yas). They are also easy to kite.

Shit Yas's ult gives him 50% bonus Armor pen for 15 (FIFTEEN) Seconds.

RalanrApr 24, 20181 votes

I like this post.

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Ok sure but whyApr 24, 20181 votes

You could easily turn that point around to, "If you have no offensive stats, then of course their gonna out-live you with their base defenses." Except, while ADC's have to constantly do everything they can to kite away a tank for an extended period of time to win, all Maokai needs to do is root his way to you before whailing his full high-CC, high-base-damage burst on you before healing back up, waiting a few seconds and doing it again, all whilst either his CC keeps you from dealing any damage in return, or while his Thornmail is whittling you down just as quickly.

If tanks had 0 damage, they would be used for their CC instead! Alistar Malphite Leona Nautilus Braum Blitzcrank Ornn Maokai Sejuani If these assholes are building full tank, their ridiculous amount of CC should be enough to make them strong in teamfights. If they wanna build damage, then they deserve to do damage, just like everyone else! But no one should have it both ways.

MrHaZeYoApr 24, 20182 votes

Not really.

EndlessSorcererApr 24, 20182 votes

This game is designed such that damage outscales defense.

It isn't really surprising that base damage outscales base defense.

Ok sure but whyApr 24, 20181 votes

At this point, it's not. That doesn't mean a lot of people are gonna be unhappy about it.

chipndip1Apr 24, 20188 votes

"I expect tanks to do 50 out of 1500 of my hp when I build no defensive shit, but I should do 1000 out of 3000 of their hp when they build nothing but defensive shit. I am not biased, not salty, and deserve to be respected on this forum."

BeatzBoyFTWApr 24, 20186 votes

Don't you have anything else better to do besides raging like a 3 years old kid?

InfernapeApr 24, 20186 votes

. I also don't want to see a tank going full ad, doing 1000+ ap damage and have a full crit build with 3000+ hp. Tank take hits. That is all.

If a tank goes AD, they're no longer a tank.

trunoob413Apr 24, 20184 votes

I mean if im a tank and the full damage person tries dueling me or i manage to stick to them I expect to kill them. Sure I'm tanky but you are also squishy if built full damage I don't need as much damage as you do to kill me. But you should be kiting so I can't actually damage you.

DisulfiramApr 24, 20182 votes

If your "tank" is Darius, then sure, if you can stick to them then you should absolutely kill them.

But if you are, say, Leona, whose job is to make it easier for her team to stick to an enemy and even has a passive that explicitly says she's not supposed to 1v1 anyone, then you killing a squishy 1v1 is the exact image of the problem with damage in LoL right now.

trunoob413Apr 24, 20182 votes

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If your "tank" is Darius, then sure, if you can stick to them then you should absolutely kill them.

But if you are, say, Leona, whose job is to make it easier for her team to stick to an enemy and even has a passive that explicitly says she's not supposed to 1v1 anyone, then you killing a squishy 1v1 is the exact image of the problem with damage in LoL right now.

Darius isn't a tank he's a bruiser, and plus I see plenty of leonas get trinity force so they have some kind of damage. Plus I'm pretty sure the OP complained after his game where he played yasuo and lost when the enemy team had a rammus...... who actually counters yasuo. Don't see an issue with leona being able to 1v1 someone either though I mean should she not solo aur sol if she manages to stay ontop of him/ inside his orbs so she doesnt get hit by them? Although I personally think there's too much damage going around as a whole right now, tanks can't even properly tank alot of times because of all the lethalty/ pen / true dmg ect going around. It's really not an issue with tanks right now so much as it is an issue with there being too much damage as a whole going around.

DisulfiramApr 24, 20181 votes

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It's really not an issue with tanks right now so much as it is an issue with there being too much damage as a whole going around.

I absolutely agree on this.

MrHaZeYoApr 24, 20181 votes

Darius isn't a tank he's a bruiser,

He's a Juggernaut, meaning he is a damage oriented tank. Bruiser is a really loose term on League anymore. Darius can take a beating while still putting a beating on. A lot of Dariuses only build Cleaver into full tank, maybe a Stereks.

and plus I see plenty of leonas get trinity force so they have some kind of damage

Idk who you're playing with/against but a support Leo who is going Tri is doing it wrong, her job isn't to kill anyone, it's to lock them down for her teammates. If Leo wants damage, she can opt into Sunfire or even a IBG, Tri should never be a option, I'd except a Titanic Hydra or Stereks long before Tri on a SUPPORT Leo.

AmetDeCryptApr 24, 20181 votes

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But if you are, say, Leona, whose job is to make it easier for her team to stick to an enemy and even has a passive that explicitly says she's not supposed to 1v1 anyone, then you killing a squishy 1v1 is the exact image of the problem with damage in LoL right now.

yeah problem is leo is hot garbage right now. give it a few patches and she'll be back but right now she can't even do anything if she gets a 5 man on all her skills and plays perfectly.

Rayjay RedfangApr 24, 20184 votes

You don't understand how tanks work apparently. Tanks aren't punching bags, they peel and cc. They are required to weave in and out of the fight if they want to live, not stand there and just let enemies hit them.

mikemcpartyApr 24, 20183 votes

"Your opinions are moot. Riot needs to nerf tanks."

You sound like a spoiled little 16 year old girl or............. A yasuo main.

*Checks match history

Looks about right. Yasuo

AsterfixApr 24, 20182 votes

Here how about Tanks deal no damage and take no damage so nobody wins the duel. You both just sit there awkwardly grabbing eachothers butts till one of you gets bored.

BTW You're talking about bruisers not tanks. Bruisers can duel, tanks can't. If you're a full damage build and you're losing to a tank, get lifesteal. If you're an AP losing to a tank, then you are way underleveled.

The Sword SaintApr 24, 20181 votes

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Here how about Tanks deal no damage and take no damage so nobody wins the duel. You both just sit there awkwardly grabbing eachothers butts till one of you gets bored.

BTW You're talking about bruisers not tanks. Bruisers can duel, tanks can't. If you're a full damage build and you're losing to a tank, get lifesteal. If you're an AP losing to a tank, then you are way underleveled.

Or oom, or against cho'gath lol.

Seer of MindApr 24, 20182 votes

Someone seems salty.

Dude, they're tanks. They don't have to build armor to be strong. Have your ADC or lethality/AP champion take care of them

GabresolApr 24, 20182 votes

I had a game in which I saw a Jinx casually shredder down a malphite after flashing his ult. She got her passive, ran at the enemy team, one shot an mf and was basicly unstoppable, because she had a Janna backing her up. It was literally a 2v5. The Jinx was noteven fed, if memory serves, but it was like minute 40 so she had her items.

Maybe tanks do not have too much damage... Maybe EVERYTHING has to much damage!

A Janna that presses w to hit you for 1/4 of your hp early is also a little too much in my opinion...

Colton147Apr 24, 20182 votes

Maokai item 3031 item 3087 new meta?

Colgate GatorApr 24, 20182 votes

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If I build full fuckign damage and fight a full tank build, I expect to win.

Kek.

The Sword SaintApr 24, 20181 votes

If the only things that makes a tank durable are the items they build then anyone can be a tank just buy buying items. Logically the inverse would be true then, anyone who builds damage items should be a carry.

I get what you're saying but the reality is that there are champions and items that are good at dueling, and there are champions and items that are good for other things. Each has a purpose. The builds that do the most dps are not the builds that do the most burst, and the builds that do just enough damage to kill while being very durable and haveing lots of sustain and catching potential are better for dueling.. burst mages lose to fighters but fighters lose to control and kiting mages... the list goes on.

It's nowhere near as simple as 'I spent the most money on damage so I should easily kill everyone else'.