Nasus is so broken now

TheBrothersGrymm··4 votes·4,109 views

played vs nasus he had 300 stacks at 15min, 900 at 30 riot you messed up admit it revert and move on

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PEEWEE783685 votes

No he is not lol... He legits only gets 12 stacks from cannons if you allowed him to get 300 or even 900 then u really need to L2P some more.

AR URF1 votes

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No he is not lol... He legits only gets 12 stacks from cannons if you allowed him to get 300 or even 900 then u really need to L2P some more.

No I don't think that's the case. I've seen a lot of jungle nasus make lane appearance around the 15 minute mark with 400+ stacks.

PEEWEE783682 votes

LoL BS... If ur jg nasus LEGIT way to only get 400 stacks is if youre nuking evreyone on the other team and COUNTERJG

TheBrothersGrymm1 votes

with junglenasus before the buff i could get 100 stacks before first back on one clear, now you double that so at 9 mins 200 stacks EASY, then you get your sheen and get 200 in another clear all day

Kai Guy2 votes

Mostly seems to be related to Jungle nas. His Monster values may need to be separately readjusted.

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

the 43% win rate jungle nasus ?

Kai Guy2 votes

-shrugs- That's where the main tilt over OMG 300 STACKS seems to come from. If it is an issue then the solutions to readjust his Monster scaling. Sorry, I did not clearly express that I don't personally think Nasus is broken from this change. I just know some one usualy would be like OMG PEEWEE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM GAME ITS JUNGLE NASUS STACKS THAT ARE BROKEN YOU NOOB/SCRUB/ETc etc etc.

Figured I would cut that off in advanced and spare him some unnecessary flame.

I personally don't find Susan a problem and don't understand what all the uproar is about but well.. I usualy feel that way about most things I see on boards. Blitzcrank is a clear exception. I hate blitz. I am very very biased vs blitz.

I think outliers need to be nerfed. If somethings to dominant in pro play, it has to get hit. If somethings excessively awful for iron and bronze? It has to get hit. My belief in overall game health balancing is the Core balance decisions should be set to reasonable levels of skill but clear outliers still need to be addressed in any MMR bracket.

ZerglingOne1 votes

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-shrugs- That's where the main tilt over OMG 300 STACKS seems to come from. If it is an issue then the solutions to readjust his Monster scaling. Sorry, I did not clearly express that I don't personally think Nasus is broken from this change. I just know some one usualy would be like OMG PEEWEE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM GAME ITS JUNGLE NASUS STACKS THAT ARE BROKEN YOU NOOB/SCRUB/ETc etc etc.

Figured I would cut that off in advanced and spare him some unnecessary flame.

I personally don't find Susan a problem and don't understand what all the uproar is about but well.. I usualy feel that way about most things I see on boards. Blitzcrank is a clear exception. I hate blitz. I am very very biased vs blitz.

I think outliers need to be nerfed. If somethings to dominant in pro play, it has to get hit. If somethings excessively awful for iron and bronze? It has to get hit. My belief in overall game health balancing is the Core balance decisions should be set to reasonable levels of skill but clear outliers still need to be addressed in any MMR bracket.

Dude, people still think he's a late game champion. Don't bother bringing your logic into the discussion.

TheBrothersGrymm1 votes

Nasus is one of 4 champs that dosnt stop scaling, with 300 stacks and triforce his q does 500 damage, then you add your 200+ sheen proc, then you ult and his q is on a 1-2 sec cd, so he does 700 damage every second and thats not broken? also he has lifesteal as his passive, so he heals 15%+ off his q which counts as an auto......then also his ult makes him super tanky and he gets a 90% slow....yea thats not broken

Kai Guy2 votes

I play a lot of champions able to stay 200 units of range away from him so again, I really don't care about nasus much. I have been around from season 1. I have personally lived with Nasus metas before. Again, I really don't care about him very much.

As I said. If he is an issue as jungle its not very difficult to nerf his monster stacks. If he is a problem in lane its not very hard to change his numbers from any value between 6 and 12.

Still nasus. Still has awfull matchups in lane that can be exploited. Still can kite. Still not something I am worried about.

I get it thou, if he is an issue in lower elo I call that an outlier. If he is an outlier my personal view on balance is that then he deserves nerfs.

Currently, I don't view him as op. Just haven't seen him be an issue in games.

TheBrothersGrymm2 votes

i dare you to go play him, get 500 stacks when you should have 300, split push and win the game single handed, he is broken he didnt need q buffs he needed base stat buff because he gets bullied, the issue with him is he builds 1 damage item then full tanks, he cant die unless you send literally 3 to 4 people and even then he will take atleast one down with him, its not just jungle nasus riot increased cannon spawn time past 20 min, so more free stacks, imagine if they gave veigar 2 ap per q kill instead of 1 he would be insta broken, by buffing nasus q they broke him not early but mid late he is a powerhouse, early sure you can shut him down but if you dont end by 20 he will come back i went 0/7 as him still carried by just walking twards the enemy with 800 stacks took towers while they sat and watched because if they walked forward id EASY 1-2 their WHOLE TEAM, nasus dosnt stop scaling, allowing him to scale faster is the mistake which in turn broke him and these my friend are facts, watch next patch revert or lowered to like 8 instead of 12, and even at 8 he will still be a monster in the jungle

Kai Guy1 votes

imagine if they gave veigar 2 ap per q kill instead of 1 he would be insta broken,

Passive: Killing a unit with Baleful Strike grants 1 stack of Phenomenal Evil, doubled against large minions and monsters.

Or is it that your asking for it to be set to 2 per kill and 4 for minions and monsters?

When I Play Veig I already aim to get 2 per Q cast by stacking minions and getting 2 kills per cast or 1 kill and damage a champion behind it.

Also

"i went 0/7 as him still carried by just walking towards the enemy with 800 stacks took towers while they sat and watched because if they walked forward id EASY 1-2 their WHOLE TEAM"

I don't see this game in your match history. I see one that's 1-5-0 nasus top

But they had 0 adc, failed to use a massive lead in gold to win. and their mid feed X2 more kills then you did. If this is the match your discussing I question your analysis of it.

Honestly I think id give the 22-2-4 Kass a lot more of the credit for that win then you. Feel free to direct me to the correct match if that's not the game your trying to discuss.

I don't understand why you don't 1 trick nasus for a bit and abuse him, if you really think he is broken and your able to hard carry despite apparently going 0-5 and a 0-7 games.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

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No he is not lol... He legits only gets 12 stacks from cannons if you allowed him to get 300 or even 900 then u really need to L2P some more.

No he gets them from large monsters and champions to

Baron Barian2 votes

Good players have already been able to get 300 at 15. My personal record is 400 at 20.

TheBrothersGrymm1 votes

yea i agree, so why did we make his scaling harder and faster? you cant stop him now, kill him all you want early he gets triforce and it goes from 200 to 600 stack in a matter of minutes

Mc Raton2 votes

illaoi is still more broken and braindead in my book..

Savage Wagon2 votes

I mean, before he was able to get to 300 at or around the 20 minute mark, some lane match ups and good players good even get to 350 in the same time. I'm not saying I agree that it was the best way to make him more appealing to play, but I don't really think it should make him warranted as "broken". His weaknesses still remain his weaknesses and his strengths are still his strengths. His late game was already strong, they just made it stronger. He can still be kited super hard by champs like Vayne and Quinn and he still gets stopped by CC pretty hard, especially taunts like Galio's and Rammus'.

TheBrothersGrymm1 votes

they made his mid late come 20 minutes sooner, at 300 stacks he can 2 shot anything that isnt a tank, thats a fact, also with his lifesteal passive he is very hard to actully kill if you are melee, he is broken his win rate jumped 3% in one day

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