i actually cant tell if my teammates are bad or if they are just autofilled anymore

McFatal··56 votes·1,823 views

both promos games to d3 i had an autofilled jungler and mid who gave up and afked before 10 minute.s

its generating toxicity.

there is no excuse for this shit

2 promo games lost because riots system is absolute dogshit.

how does a billion dollar company feel about placing a fucking sona 1 trick into jungle vs a d3 jungle main who ONLY jungles.

how is that logical?

it makes no sense.

its like putting the fastest turtle in the world vs a baby turtle and saying "well we reduced queue times"

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Cpt Teemo 201920 votes

It really isn't fixing anything tbh, I'd rather have the longer que time back with the 2 choices I put in every game

Xonra3 votes

This right here. It isn't actually fixing anything. If anything it has just replaced the problem with a different problem. Except...they haven't actually fixed the problem at all, because even less people are queueing up for support, and most that are supporting probably don't want to be or don't mind but still didn't have much of a say.

Kilanost10 votes

Its probably not reducing queue times because most people are dodging if the get autofilled.

Its also hurting the people who are trying their best to give auto-fill a shot because they're playing the role they're autofilled to more often as other people run around dodging. As a result, they have less of an influence on a higher percent of their games when compared to all the people who are not cooperating by dodging (if you agree with the assumption that people who play their main roles will be more influential in a game than if they get autofilled, which I assume most people would agree with).

I also thing one of the big issues with the ADC role is the abundance of autofilled supports in games, so many games a single autofill actually strongly affects two people, not just one which is an even bigger imbalance.

EDIT: Please note, I'm not saying this because I disagree with autofill in principle. The idea at the surface makes sense. Its just in practice, as it sits now, its actually hurting the overall game experience especially for the good Samaritans trying to cooperate and introducing the opportunity for imbalance that you can't truly work into any algorithm, while not really changing queue times due to people dodging when they are autofilled.

Xonra2 votes

I would prefer if they dodged. Most people in my games don't say anything till two deaths in then go "whelp, love being autofilled". Or the ones who are autofilled like, top or mid, and no one will trade them out of it, so you have someone that doesn't play either of the SUPER important solo lanes. Like a top main being put mid and the person who got top is also a top main.

Seems logical the top laner could solo lane, but I think people forget that just because mages overlap into supports doesn't mean a lot of other stuff overlaps into other lanes. Especially from top to mid. It is just awkward.

3TWarrior1 votes

yeah, it requires a completely different mindset.

In top lane, you have to be as selfish as possible when it comes to harrassing your opponent. If you do not weaken them, they will beat you down and are the only lane other than the bulky support that can survive and stay in lane for multiple hits

in mid lane, you have to manage resources, focus on farming as well as you can, know when a lane is going to be a guaranteed loss and should back down, know when to roam, know when to ward one side of the bush or the other, be on constant lookout for the jungler, and so many more variables

it's even more complicated if someone switches between top and bottom lane due to not having a heavy team presence in top lane

TheDelighted7 votes

i recall a 9gag image where someone gets an interview for work : Interviewer: we read here you are very quick doing math person: thats correct interviewer: How much is 27*47? person: 58 Interviewer: But that's not correct... person: but it was fast

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Autofill in a nutshell

TheDelighted1 votes

yeah thats the one :D

Sraeg20131 votes

I'm sure I've seen one with Harold too.

Kilanost5 votes

I just posted this somewhere else on this topic. I'm copy/pasting it here because its relevant:

Here are the questions you have to ask before asking the original question in the topic of your OP (the OP was stating that people should be improving at the role they're getting autofilled to):

  1. Are you ever going to be near the skill level of the person you're against that mains the role you were just autofilled against?
  2. Is there the same number of autofills on each team?
  3. Is the person that was autofilled contributing more than 1/5 of the mmr of the team average that is used to find balanced skill match ups during queue? Or, more simply put, is the autofilled player on your team the best player on your team?
  4. Are people who are trying to cooperate with autofill getting hurt more than the people who tend to dodge as often as possible when they are autofilled?
  5. With autofilled players constantly dodging, are we really getting shorter queue times at all ranks?

When I look at autofill, i dont look at it from the perspective of "God I hate support and I'm bad at it" because I don't mind it and at the very least I can manage to drop wards without feeding. I look at support from the perspective of "is it doing what it was intended to do for everyone?" I can say at low elo, match making feels like its taking longer because i get so many dodges before a game starts. The other question to ask is "Is autofill creating inherent imbalances in gameplay and ranking?" Items 1-4 above I think provide a strong argument that it is in fact creating imbalances. And I would argue that many of these are things that can never be accurately or consistently accounted for.

Basically, the fun vs efficiency trade off here can be illustrated by two guys who want to play a sweet board game they both love. But one guy turns around and says, "Eh fuck it, setting up the pieces will take too long. Lets just thumb wrestle instead."

dominusx3 votes

how does it feel when a thresh main plays vs a darius main gets stomped in lane then ppl flame him? heh. i feel bad for people who get autofilled top tbh. at least support doesnt have THAT much of an impact in the game and it's easier than solo lane. I mean put me mid vs amidlane main and i'm gonna lose like 9/10 times sucks d specialy for high elo where the skill levels are way higher than average and also one kill can make or lose a game instantly

Hexs Fortune2 votes

Just write em off as unwinnable games. It's all balanced by the fact that everyone is suffering the same auto fill problem

McFatal5 votes

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Just write em off as unwinnable games. It's all balanced by the fact that everyone is suffering the same auto fill problem

By that logic everytime someone ints in my game illl just say "well it isn't happening to only me so I guess fuck my promos "

General Esdeath 1 votes

I guess people going afk, inting, and trolling while calling people names isn't a problem because I never see it.

Pr0Meister1 votes

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Just write em off as unwinnable games. It's all balanced by the fact that everyone is suffering the same auto fill problem

Other people suffering from the same disease doesn't mean doctors shouldn't cure them all.

Revali2 votes

autofilled mid

what? this exists :[

SzGamer2271 votes

Because "they had a bad game" is not an option as per the usual.

We League players are a cynical race indeed.

McFatal5 votes

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Because "they had a bad game" is not an option as per the usual.

We League players are a cynical race indeed.

EVery single game someone having a bad game . My two promo games I had both junglers and mods being autofilled in both games feeding their assess off with no ganks or pressure and then afking

a special one1 votes

how does one ONLY jungle?

Sraeg20131 votes

My friend got from Gold to Diamond playing Evelynn jungle in like 95% of games.

Dengeden1 votes

Welcome. To. Ranked. Been. This. Way. Since. It. Started.

3TWarrior1 votes

I want them to put a system similar to team builder into everything...at least you could pick just ONE role then...

I want to be a fighter top Swain, good, got my spot

wait, now i'm a support that I can play but really do not want to do right now? or a mid mage that I had no preparation time for?

what the heck was going on in riot's heads XD

PhDs Nuts1 votes

If autofill is supposed to make up for 1-2 extra minutes of queue time, a single dodge (caused by autofill) completely negates anywhere between 1-10 autofills in terms of time efficiency.

Autofill isn't worth it.

Lestat S461 votes

Almost every que i go into has at least one dodge and I have to start over. Usually takes me 2-3 trys to actually get into a game. Not helping my que times at all there riot. Especially when they wait for the end of picks and bans and dodge after everythings done.

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