cant have anything nice whatsoever.
any buff any ads get the ranged champs abuse and torture the melees with.
cant wait for the quinn pick so i can dodge since jayce is banned every game i have ban choice.
Arya Riven14 votes
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Catastrop5 votes[{quoted}](name=Arya Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FtiOgVBE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-02-08T07:10:41.157+0000)
Is this for real? Someone who acknowledges that melee top laners can be just as cancer as ranged top laners? Has I dead?
Melledoneus2 votesPantheon might as well be ranged.
GULAG 4 U2 votesI've only played pantheon once, but WTF.
His kit is completely retarded.
Point and click poke with mana cost completely negated by either 
or 
. Ability to make trades unwinnable thanks to his shield and stunning people then running out. Extreme tower diving capabilities. It's completely dumb how this spartan is still in this state.
'He falls off lategame!' Lategame doesn't exists in right now.
GULAG 4 U2 votesFunny thing is that most of those champions are the very few that can fight ranged champion huh.
ValyrianBlade6 votesAs someone who has played a decent amount of Quinn top, I'll give you three options to beat her every time.
Option 1 - the obvious: pick a counter from the list: 
and to a lesser extent 
.
Option 2 - the always applicable: Take 
. Not kidding - makes it a near guaranteed won lane unless she takes it too. In which case you just don't die and outscale her.
Option 3 - the "I WANT TP and she picked in to me!": Play safe. Give up a lot of CS. YOU DON'T NEED FARM TO OUTSCALE QUINN. Be very vigilant on your missings - she moves extremely fast and if you're playing safe she'll gank your mid/bot easily. RUSH ARMOR. An early thornmail or sunfire will stymie her. I can shit on a Darius building damage, but one who build Thornmail first item just ignores me as he pushes the wave (and I hurt myself more than I hurt him it seems if I try to attack). Lethality is strongest against low armor targets - the more armor you build early the more useless she is against you.
Also, in order for Quinn to get a lead she needs to extend on you. Quinn excels at harassing under turret, however she's also very susceptible to ganks. So ask for them. Let your jungler get fed.
Troll for Trump3 votesTalon doesn't really counter quinn. It's a skill/jgler matchup
ValyrianBlade4 votesTalon doesn't really counter quinn. It's a skill/jgler matchup
He has all of the tools necessary to win lane against her, although perhaps he should have been in the second list. Likewise perhaps Maokai should have been in the first list. It's a toss up for me with those two.
In general, anyone that can successfully get between Quinn and her tower often make life tough on her. She can't E to safety if they're between her and safety. Maokai can W on to her and come out behind her. Talon can use his E to position himself favorably quite quickly.
Troll for Trump3 votesHow is he getting in melee range.
Talon will only get close to you if you Vault him BEFORE he Qs. So, anytime he wants to go in, you're safe. His Q leap is also shut down by your Q. You don't need your E to harass him either. aa Q aa will bully him out. If you know how to quinn, he won't even be able to W for cs effectively. Talon would only come in that way after midgame or if he's coming to top from midlane(or jgling), which is after lane phase.
Gehco2 votesHow is he getting in melee range.
Talon will only get close to you if you Vault him BEFORE he Qs. So, anytime he wants to go in, you're safe. His Q leap is also shut down by your Q. You don't need your E to harass him either. aa Q aa will bully him out. If you know how to quinn, he won't even be able to W for cs effectively. Talon would only come in that way after midgame or if he's coming to top from midlane(or jgling), which is after lane phase.
then you are probably playing against bronze talons because Talon does rape quinn bad.
Troll for Trump2 votesNot quite. I'm the talon. Quinn will bully the shit out of you in lane. You just play safe, wait for jgler to gank, kill her, and outroam her.
Talon beats her in that he can actually outroam quinn, as he has betterwaveclear, doesn't need to wait for 6 to roam, scales better, and doesn't need 100 mana early to roam. If she's dumb, you might lvl 2 cheese her. If not, you won't do much to her for a while, or until you get fed from roaming.
Serika Zero1 votesher Q blind doesn't stop talon's Q, it just blinds a large portion around you, if you Qed quinn, you still step on her. But she can E and create distance around you two. This means she wins lane until lv 6, after that, its gona be difficult for her to stay in the same lane with you if you didn't die 2+ times already
ValyrianBlade1 votesHow is he getting in melee range.
Talon will only get close to you if you Vault him BEFORE he Qs. So, anytime he wants to go in, you're safe. His Q leap is also shut down by your Q. You don't need your E to harass him either. aa Q aa will bully him out. If you know how to quinn, he won't even be able to W for cs effectively. Talon would only come in that way after midgame or if he's coming to top from midlane(or jgling), which is after lane phase.
His e can get him behind her. There are enough walls near the river top lane for him to get behind her easily.
Also, once he hits 6, his R grants him stealth. Quinn's W DOES NOT REVEAL STEALTH. So she can't E off of him while he's stealthed and he can easily get behind her with that as well.
Troll for Trump1 votesHis e can get him behind her. There are enough walls near the river top lane for him to get behind her easily.
He'll miss a lot of cs and xp. Note that since Talon is melee and quinn is ranged, in most cases, until talon gets enough AD for his W to oneshot the waves(almost, usually at ~11). The wave will be pushed into Talon's turret. So, Talon will walk up towards quinn, the horde of enemy minions, and vault over the wall, slowly, since he doesn't have youmuus or any ms boost that early in the game. Quinn will obviously see this. This also puts him at risk for enemy jgler ganks, and he will have no pre-3 escape.
Assume the lane is in the middle; it has just resetted after quinn shoved the wave. This is assuming the quinn has not damaged Talon in any way. Talon will have to walk in Quinn's vision range to slowly E over the wall, into an even more riskier space that's closer to the enemy jgler and Quinn's turret. He will, however, have a good chance to escape via Baron Pit if Quinn's on red side. If Quinn's on blue side, it makes the E over the wall easier to get close to her, but, due to the bugs in his E, Talon will either: land back from where he started(hate when that happens) or, usually, be in turret range. At lvl 2, even one shot will hurt, especially since Talon is squishy. Doing this kind of thing would be extremely gimmicky; you have almost no way to escape. (You aren't diving her at lvl 2, in most cases).
If the wave is pushed in Talon's favor, the Quinn has no idea how to play QUinn.
Also, once he hits 6, his R grants him stealth. Quinn's W DOES NOT REVEAL STEALTH. So she can't E off of him while he's stealthed and he can easily get behind her with that as well.
Talon won't oneshot her through base damages. Assassins need items. Quinn has likely bullied Talon to the point where he's too behind at 6 to kill her. As the game draws out, Quinn will fall off harder than Talon, and Talon will have almost no problems with her.
Only Play Darius1 votesCan't Quinn hop out of J4 ult with her vault?
ChaoticPinecone1 votesLike all melee toplaners, you win if you can close the gap. J4 has some tools in his kit to farm to the point where he can close the gap - his Q is decent waveclear and his shield can tank some harass. If you get to a point where you can win an all in, E-Q-W on her. You can basically run her down with your knockup+slow so she is forced to use her vault, then you ult her to get back into range.
The problem is getting to that point without Quinn getting a large enough lead to straight up 1v1 you.
ValyrianBlade1 votes[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FtiOgVBE,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-02-08T08:05:23.069+0000)
Can't Quinn hop out of J4 ult with her vault?
She can, but that's not why J4 counters her.
In general, Quinn struggles against anyone with two dashes. She can e to deny one of their dashes, but the second dash lets them on top of her.
J4 has his E-Q and his R. That's 2 dashes.
Also, Quinn struggles against Champions that can get behind her (so her E would take her farther from her turret, rather than closer). J4 can E-Q to get behind her, which means she can't E off of him to safety. So as early as level 2 J4 can get in Quinn's face. Quinn should be able to harass enough at level 1 to be safe from this, but nonetheless once J4 bases the first time he'll be in a position to beat Quinn in lane. Assuming he doesn't go too hard and fall behind too much at level 1, it's a won lane for him.
Spoofghoul1 votescan confirm as OTP
he really screws over quinn badly, like really badly
Sexualsaurus4 votesIrelia does quite well against her if you're looking for a counter.
McFatal3 votesIrelia does quite well against her if you're looking for a counter.
irelia is not balanced. thats not a good answer.
Sexualsaurus2 votesYou could try, lissandra or talon top can do well and once you hit level 6 you can farm her. Kayle can do well and she outscales Quinn, you can even play teemo or malphite. If quinn uses her vault aggressively you can punish her as her disengage has a high cooldown.
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesShe has a 2.5% playrate at MOST. To be honest she's hardly an issue. She is super easy to outscale (Probably drops off around 20 minutes) and has PLENTY of counters available. She's annoying, but she's not as bad as a lot of other champs.
FalconPawwwwnch1 votesWhere are quinn buffs?
McFatal1 votesWhere are quinn buffs?
lethality buffs with usual quinns rushing youmous into edge and duskblade.
she melts everyone now faster than before
SpookyNeedle1 voteslethality buffs with usual quinns rushing youmous into edge and duskblade.
she melts everyone now faster than before
Her crit build did the same damage, but it had slightly less out of combat ms.
EbonyBladeJ881 votesI've been seeing her up there more often and find myself wanting more and more to get back into playing Yasuo Top. (Help me, I don't want to fall back into the pit of darkness that is Yasuo, I tried to play him top and mid, suck at both, help me resist the temptation!)
Hexs Fortune1 votesQuinn can't be part of the front line for the team, melee generally can
Only Play Darius1 votesThe good news is Camille just got nerfed so you can just ban Quinn instead.
DemainaNyx1 votesPlay safe, give up CS, aggressively ping when she's missing.
I never play top and I beat a Quinn with Nasus simply because she wasted all her mana trying to stop me from stacking and trying to poke me under tower. Granted, the lethality buffs are going to make her more difficult to deal with, but not impossible unless you are a squishy.
Trestani1 votesJust go nautilus farm till 6 and kill her ass
