@Riot, could you consider removing Bond of Stone for another Resolve Keystone mastery?

Malicious Metal·Oct 20, 2016·3 votes·637 views

It just feels like it does take up the spot for a great Keystone option for champions who don't want/need the sustain of Grasp and not really play like Engage tanks who got their own keystone in Courage of the Colossus.

With the preseason changes Supports might just build Knight's Vow, which is basically a Bond of Stones on Steroids while probably going for Courage just because it has such a great synergy with tanky engage/peel characters.

So, how about we get another Keystone for Tanks that actually makes investing in the tree rewarding?

It just feels like the other trees got way better options while also having better stats in general, not only Keystones

17 Comments

darkdillOct 20, 20161 votes

I'm gonna guess that the Courage shield is weakened for ranged Champions so that ranged supports can't abuse it as much.

Malicious MetalOct 20, 20161 votes

Nope, it isn't.

Thresh and co can get the full shield as long as there are enough enemies nearby

WoonStruckOct 20, 20161 votes

New LCS Lissandra top keystone incoming.

Malicious MetalOct 20, 20161 votes

Liss?

Think about KENNEN!

He just Protobelts in with ult-> gets a huge shield->Zhonyas after it has worn out

WoonStruckOct 20, 20161 votes

Kennen has teamfight potential, but LCS tends to be more about picks from what I've seen over the years.

Lissandra tends to become meta in professional for that very reason time and time again. Adding more safety to her makes her a more reliable tool.

Tychusfindlay919Oct 21, 20161 votes

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Liss?

Think about KENNEN!

He just Protobelts in with ult-> gets a huge shield->Zhonyas after it has worn out

The easy fix for that is to remove the flat value and make it completely %hp shield. It would have awful effectiveness on squishies and make them semi durable bruisers at best while keeping those juggernauts and tanks that can use it walls of steel.

darkdillOct 20, 20161 votes

I am positive that during testing they're gonna nerf it for any ranged users after they see Kennen and Lissandra abuse it.

WoonStruckOct 20, 20161 votes

Tanks basically have

Grasp: Stay in combat for 12 seconds to get 3 procs and it still won't match up to any other mastery!

Courage: Pretty good for supports/CC engage champs. Nothing much to say here.

Bond of Stone: Outclassed by Courage on the large majority of supports, especially with Knights Vow being a thing.

Btw, remember this:

Bond of Stone+Knight's Vow+PD+Death's dance-----> 38% damage reduction on the ADC.

Welcome to our new ADC+support meta.

Malicious MetalOct 20, 20161 votes

Oh god no.

With Assassin's burst pattern being extended ADC's might just become unkillable monstrosities

WoonStruckOct 20, 20161 votes

Our only answer is full AP Cho'Gath.

Malicious MetalOct 20, 20162 votes

Chogath Nomnomnom...Tastes like chicken...salty chicken

WoonStruckOct 20, 20161 votes

Can't even get enough AP unless you have Deathcap, the 3 100 AP items, Seraph's, a 67 AP @ 18 runepage, Natural Talent, Blue Buff 3 Infernals, Baron, and Elder.

Sad times.

Malicious MetalOct 20, 20161 votes

And Rylais might just lose some of its AP as well.

RalanrOct 20, 20161 votes

With knights vow there is no reason for bond of stone to exist.

It should be replaced with CoC (Oh My). Not SoTA.

Malicious MetalOct 20, 20163 votes

Or if they have a problem with the flat HP SotA provides they could just make it provide a percentage bonus to the champion's base/max/whatever HP pool, stacking up over the course of the game

RalanrOct 20, 20161 votes

This would be fine.

WoonStruckOct 20, 20161 votes

I'm surprised they didn't add it to Cinderhulk and up the price a little. Still takes it away from champs like Kha and Nidalee, but adds a little power to an item people are constantly taking item 1410 or item 1400 over, even if they're tanks.