@riot, from a shyvana main

first of all, i saw this coming,.. shyvana is in a pretty good place with devourer / fervor, both of those things have great synergy with her kit.

of course i'm not happy about nerfs to my favourite champ, but at least she won't be fotm anymore and people will stop fucking banning her

............but i think these nerfs may be going a little far. i'm aware that it's on the PBE so it's subject to change, but the point of the PBE is to discuss things before they go live so hear me out

removing the bonus damage on her W is a bad idea. just.. plain and simple. she's a devourer jungler, she's supposed to be good at farming. i don't see how her clear is the problem.

if you slow down her clear, people will only be complaining about the next champion that takes the title of having "the fastest clear in the game". if you really hate her clear so much, it's much better to nerf this damage instead of completely removing it. 15% instead of 20? 10? give me something to work with. i don't know how to kite camps. i play casually and i play my favourite champs because i like them.

i play for fun and i love shyvana, but it's no fun having your main get gutted and suddenly starting to lose every game because you don't want to switch to playing whatever champ is currently "the best"

my best friend was a sejuani main and i watched him quit league because of stuff like this. i don't think shyvana herself is overly strong. but i see the direction this is going. you nerf shyvana, you nerf devourer, you leave shyvana in a weaker state than before even though she's likely now going to have to build cinderhulk and people who play shyvana top are going to get fucked over for no reason

though i will admit, her Q was a bit strong. before the jungle items were reworked, i mained shyvana only top (i've been maining her for about 2 years now) and i always maxed E second, but since i started jungling i've realized that maxing her Q was much, MUCH better. especially with sated. you made a good call nerfing this but i feel like with these nerfs, you're not nerfing the ability as much as.. removing it lol

cutting the damage in HALF isn't really the way to go about this. her Q, currently, does 80/85/90/95/100% damage. early levels that can be huge damage combined with the %max health damage from her E mark.

Q could use a nerf. not denying that. but going from 80 to 40 is too much. can i suggest 60 on first rank? if you make it 40 on first rank, i have a feeling people will just stop leveling it. her E does decent damage. and her Q on first rank can still be used as an auto attack reset.

i mean, i will admit that shyvana may be a little strong right now, but after not seeing her in a patch note for so long i'm really worried. i don't want to see my main sejuani'd. nerfs are fine. nerfs are what keeps the game balanced and separates good shyvana players from bad ones. but don't take whatever champ has become fotm and nerf them into the ground just because people keep complaining about statistics.