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being banned has made this game more fun

shyv··88 votes·10,639 views

since being banned for 2 weeks in early November, i find i'm starting to enjoy league again.

at first, of course, i wanted to go back to being a bitch, calling out my teammates for every mistake, blaming everyone but myself, using cheesy annoying champs to win games easily and bm constantly

but that's .. just not fun

not only do i not bm anymore because of the threat of permaban, the game is actually just better when you're not intentionally creating a negative environment. so all you people saying you HAVE to call your team bad or they won't learn, it's not true. people learn more and perform better when you reward good plays instead of punishing bad ones.

i think, if you've been punished and still have a chance at reform, it's important to remind yourself every once in a while that it's just a game. you should be enjoying it, your team should be enjoying it, and you shouldn't take it so seriously all the time, especially in norms. tell your support gj after a good engage. thank shen for ulting you. tell blitz he's a god every time he lands a hook (blitz players love being called a god specifically for some reason)

enjoy the game. don't worry so much about winning. just enjoy it and don't be a dick.

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RiotRiot Whiskies59 votes

*genuinely heartfelt slow clap

I'd like to rather heartily shake your hand. Then pull you in for one of those surprise get-over-here hugs. (っ´∀｀)っ

shyv9 votes

aw, thank you. hugs are always welcome

i think a lot of the time we forget that league is a game. competition is fun, but sometimes you gotta just take it easy and play some games with your friends.

sucks that i had to get banned to learn that, but it's over now lol

Samus723 votes

{quoted}

*genuinely heartfelt slow clap

I'd like to rather heartily shake your hand. Then pull you in for one of those surprise get-over-here hugs. (っ´∀｀)っ

Admiral Ackbar: "It's a trap!"

Juggernaut62816 votes

{quoted}

*genuinely heartfelt slow clap

I'd like to rather heartily shake your hand. Then pull you in for one of those surprise get-over-here hugs. (っ´∀｀)っ

You mean the "surprise-get-over-here-since-our-blitzcrank-is-madlife hug?" I'm sure it's full AP too.

Rendarkan8 votes

You forgot the "Pick-up-those-Teemo-shrooms-on-the-way"

Chaotic Reks2 votes

don't forget those pesky Shaco boxes

Rendarkan3 votes

and "Say hi to Garen for me when you pass by that bush"

S H A Y C 01 votes

Then get LeeSin kicked under the now useless turrets and walk away safely with 8 hp

8Hz98hmIDG1 votes

This was taken way too far.

S H A Y C 02 votes

NONSENSE!

RiotRiot Whiskies2 votes

{quoted}

You mean the "surprise-get-over-here-since-our-blitzcrank-is-madlife hug?" I'm sure it's full AP too.

{quoted}

You forgot the "Pick-up-those-Teemo-shrooms-on-the-way"

[{quoted}](name=NyX Reks,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bn2vHzME,comment-id=000a000200000000,timestamp=2016-01-06T13:05:07.763+0000)

don't forget those pesky Shaco boxes

{quoted}

and "Say hi to Garen for me when you pass by that bush"

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Then get LeeSin kicked under the now useless turrets and walk away safely with 8 hp

Hahahaha okay okay, all noted! Next time I'll get it right... [you guys are hilarious, thanks for making my AM]

shyv2 votes

hey, also, i know you're busy doing Riot Things so if you can't / don't want to help me out with this that's totally understandable

but is there a way i can view my chat logs from recent games? i want to see that i've actually improved. and if i see anything sort of passive aggressive i know i have to improve on that

Rendarkan2 votes

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love league1 votes

I just got banned for playing bard top, and having fun. Trying to farm for vayne. Teammates called me retarded and a %%%got. I quote their insults in ALL chat. And... I'm currently banned for two weeks. NO reason. NO appropriate ban response.

lolptwo8 votes

Was permabanned on one account(this account). Made a lengthy self realization post that got 80 upvotes in the new behavioral system about my view on toxicity and how it was a false representation of who I am(and how it grows and breeds like a cancer cell). Have another account, never been banned since. Part of it is the realization that there is no winning by engaging in toxic behavior with the trolls and people who are clearly going to be punished. Part is that it's takes away from my fun and in general is not healthy. Another part is I do not care anymore to defend myself over a video game and something that has literally zero in real life value to me.

Most importantly it was about going back to my core values of who I am online vs in real life. I'm a sensible, non-violent, and educated person in real life. I know it's easy to be someone else online, and releasing all frustrations about someones behavior to them online. It's just not worth it, and quite frankly built up more stress than it was relieving.

I commend you for being honest about your behavior but also taking the initiative to change. Nobody is perfect(as much as some people on these boards would like to believe), growth and improvement is the only path to success.

RiotRiot Whiskies17 votes

You sound so learn-ed [two syllables] and wise. *bow.

I wish posts like these were more the norm, as opposed to all those that folks seem to enjoy 'eating popcorn' to... oftentimes I am confused how those people sound so vehemently righteous and then they include a super scary chat log full of expletives and slurs.

There's just something about being able to hide behind the safety-curtain that is the world wide web that some take advantage of and think they can get away with terrible behavior. I really like what you said here:

{quoted}

Most importantly it was about going back to my core values of who I am online vs in real life. I'm a sensible, non-violent, and educated person in real life. I know it's easy to be someone else online, and releasing all frustrations about someones behavior to them online. It's just not worth it, and quite frankly built up more stress than it was relieving.

Kudos galore, friend Aegon!

Randomonium2 votes

This, so much this. "Internet Courage" is such a rampant disease right now. Its amazing what some people will say or do when they feel like there are no negative consequences. Sometimes I think about how humorous it would be, in kind of a dark and ironic way, if people acted the same way in real life as they do in video games. Can you imagine getting cussed out and told to kill yourself by random strangers every time you made a minor mistake in real life? Makes you wonder how people can justify their actions in game.

o SWiZzY x6 votes

Hasn't made it more fun for me. Perma-banned on 2 accounts (Like I give a fuck)

The amount of braindead people on this game is just too much for me at this point. I think I'm done with LoL. I'll still watch the pros though.

shyv27 votes

how edgy

Corrupto1231 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bn2vHzME,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-01-05T21:33:55.563+0000)

how edgy

get it!? 'edgy'? 'hook'? ... .... i'll just leave now.

shyv7 votes

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PIMPSMOOTH19 votes

[{quoted}](name=o SWiZzY x,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bn2vHzME,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-05T21:31:10.430+0000)

Hasn't made it more fun for me. Perma-banned on 2 accounts (Like I give a fuck) The amount of braindead people on this game is just too much for me at this point

Of course it hasn't been fun for you b/c after going through not one, but two permanent account suspensions you still continue to act like a petulant child and reap the consequences.

A solid argument could be made that the brain dead person is the one who stares back at you in your mirror.

o SWiZzY x2 votes

Child? No, the only people that are children are the people that I'm forced to play with. I'm not actually salty in most of the games I play. I just have problems with the way the game is set up that force people to play with others that clearly don't give a shit about winning.

I mostly play TeamBuilder because I get what I want when I want it. I could have lessened the saltiness if I could have just left those games without punishment. I've said it in other threads, the punishment for leaving a normal game is just awful. The game essentially means nothing more than a W on a meaningless win counter (which I want but not at the expense of my wasted time and frustration with my own team).

This "play for fun" mentality is why there are ragers in most games. Sure play for fun but don't be an idiot at the same time.

RIOT also gives the MINORITY the decision to continue games. Why the hell is a majority vote to surrender, 3/5, not able to end the game? Because Riot doesn't give a fuck about the community

Rendarkan2 votes

You sound like you play CoD for a living.

o SWiZzY x1 votes

Nah, those games have been shit for a while in the gameplay department. Doesn't change my point about Riot not giving a fuck about the community's "toxicity".

ˆDekoˆ5 votes

[{quoted}](name=o SWiZzY x,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bn2vHzME,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-05T21:31:10.430+0000)

Hasn't made it more fun for me. Perma-banned on 2 accounts (Like I give a fuck)

The amount of braindead people on this game is just too much for me at this point. I think I'm done with LoL. I'll still watch the pros though.

You ever thought that maybe YOU are the problem? Cause that is what many low elo players dont understand (nothing against lowelo players I am unranked and I think the same sometimes)

o SWiZzY x2 votes

Never said I wasn't a problem. I would be less of a "problem" if I was allowed to leave normal games in which the teammates are clearly not trying to win and just having fun. Most of my flaming occurs in those games in which we're losing badly and the game won't end because 2 idiots just won't surrender.

HighH18 votes

God forbid someone play games which are meant for fun,for fun instead of tryharding to victory 24/7 or just cause you're in it. Unless they were trolling then fuck them

o SWiZzY x1 votes

There's a difference between not tryharding and playing with no common sense. For example, people playing new champions that don't look up skill order, builds, etc compared to somebody that does. It takes like 5 seconds but people just don't do it because they don't like reading.

help14 votes

sniff sniff I wish more people were like you, actually learning from bans instead of making another account and doing the same thing all over again...:3

IcyPepper3 votes

DST, baby.

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

If that means "dick sucking technique", then I agree.

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

The feels.

Got chat restricted for turbo foul language 3 months ago. Game just got so much better when I stopped that bs attitude.

RyotProfanity3 votes

I don't see what's the fun factor of offending anonymous people in an on-line game. I suppose it's the 4chan effect.

Canidae2 votes

I prefer the going full tryhard, being a b*tch to everything, and eventually winning the game (whining every step of the way) method of playing League.

shyv2 votes

i used to play it like that but i have more fun throwing all the time

have you ever played adc soraka? doesn't work at all! still play it.

ayNigerianPrince2 votes

I was gonna go adc soraka once, but then someone picked an adc at the last second so I just went support. Once we got into the game adc never connected, so I was like "fuck it, Dorans blade".

8 minutes later adc reconnected. I got a lot of shit when I was building gunblade, swiftness boots, and deathcap with some various ad/ap items mixed in. When my team got pissed I just pretended it was a new build discovered recently.

I think they still reported me.

shyv2 votes

i get reported for "intentionally feeding" so much just because im bad.

or playing off meta things. which riot has said isn't report worthy.

i make them work most of the time..... but when i dont oh my GOD does my team whine about it

funny to pick something off meta, get in shit for it, and then carry though

Rendarkan1 votes

What's worse is playing ARAM and getting someone you played once or twice on free week. Like when I get Vayne. I hate Vayne and everything about her playstyle.

shyv2 votes

really? vayne is my favourite adc and the only one i will play when i get forced to adc

im fucking awful at her but she's so fun! i play her so much

The Taco Kat1 votes

RIP AD Sword of the Occult Soraka top. You will be missed.

rollya2 votes

HELP! a similar thing happened to me. i came back to league after playing another game for weeks and it felt refreshing, however after countless hours of playing i found myself developing a negative & unpleasant attitude again. do you guys have any tips on how to desalinize?

shyv2 votes

my advice would be to either say things out loud instead of typing them in chat, like, if my jungler comes in and dies to my lane I'll actually say out loud "what the fuck are you doing" instead of being mean to him in chat. either that or type out something mean and DONT SENT IT. delete it and close the chat. I think it's only natural to be mad about mistakes sometimes, I mean, I'm more chill now but it happens to the best of us and I'm sure even rioters can get super pissed off sometimes, but they don't put that anger into chat. I think it's fine to vent your anger as long as your team isn't seeing it.

S H A Y C 02 votes

people learn more and perform better when you reward good plays instead of punishing bad ones.

Positive reinforcement is a thing*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

Congrats bro! Well done :)

shyv1 votes

im officially a bro...... this is amazing thank u

S H A Y C 01 votes

lol! added you in game...now we can test your metal [slayer-jinx-wink]

shyv1 votes

i didnt get a friend request, want me to add you?

S H A Y C 01 votes

thats weird, yeah add me bro :P

Fick Roat Gemus1 votes

Being banned does nothing more than delay the inevitable and eventually strips the public gaming community of very much needed relevant account-related content. It should be of no surprise that many people simply over-value winning to the point of degrading everyone and everything around the their team every time they lose; it's human of us, and it's the very reason we're even alive right now [we can't accept failure in this volatile world we live in]. This should actually be expected, and soothed [not punished]. If Riot Games would simply get together, figure out and study what elements about this game add fuel to the fire and worsen things, and then try to find ways to control and throttle back negativity as a whole, then maybe this community wouldn't be as vile anymore. Maybe Riot Games will one day unlock the secret to being a normal player [that is, not an employee with infinite IP/RP, always joining together with other employees for never-random/always-premade gaming while being completely disconnected from the actual randomness queue and potentially immune to the very justice system they so eagerly support, who thus knows almost nothing of what an actual random player feels and/or thinks and/or goes through, esp. when it comes to the draconian systems RG has in place].

blkKalameet2 votes

The fact you are able to directly communicate to players on your team and on the other team are reasons for toxicity intensifying. The fact that it is a written communication further intensifys this. Cursing at somebody in other games is easily disregarded in comparison, while knowing that the person insulting you had taken time to stop playing the game so that they could target you has a much more personal impact.

Secondly, in a game such as CoD you are able to carry a team on your own if you have the skill. It doesn't matter if the new player is like chum in a shark tank, it won't put the opposing team into a lead you can't catch up on with just one person playing well. This is just not the case in LoL. In this game you must depend on your team to be able to work together in a functional manner, and one weak player can put the other team into an advantage you can't breach. And because others must suffer for the acts of one person, that person can easily become a target for the frustration the players are feeling.

These issues are explainable with simple psychology. This also makes it a difficult problem to solve. If communication is removed that can hurt teamwork, and new players by not being able to receive useful advice. If team reliance is pulled back then the game begins to stop being the same in the essence of itself.

I unfortunately do believe that the battle against this games toxicity would best be handled by a combination of automatic system to detect things such as verbal harassment, and player moderation in cases the system can not detect properly. But the punishments for offence need to be swift, and proportionate to the offenders record of conduct.

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